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Good Thursday, Widdershins.  Not that there has been much good news of late.  The Supremes have had a banner week serving their corporate masters, other than for their mystifying vote to uphold the bulk of the EPA regulations. Some of their decisions may prove to be the undoing of the Republican agenda, although at this point it appears that the Supreme-Industrial-Religious Complex has had a mighty good week.

Let’s start with the flipping “buffer zone” decision.  Past history of bombings a la Eric Rudolph have been clean forgotten by the Fab Five, and apparently Dr. Tiller’s murder was just happenstance.  What really, really matters above all is the First Amendment right of individuals to speaking “lovingly” to women who go to a clinic to obtain a perfectly legal procedure.  The state of Massachusetts has a few other laws in place that may help somewhat in reducing the onslaught of “affectionate” diatribe that these women will endure, and some clinics are hiring escorts to walk patients into the facility. Therefore we can assume that it will be fine and dandy for protesters to gently touch bankers, brokers, and captains of industry on the arm, and lovingly speak to them of Jesus and the moneylenders?   Can we affectionately share the teachings of Christ with regard to caring for the elderly, the young, the ill and less fortunate?   Or perhaps softly remind them that it will be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven?   I’m certain that they will be ever so grateful, and may amend their evil habits under such a withering attack of love incarnate.   The Supremes left their own buffer zone solidly in place, but the rest of the US is now a wide-open  free speech zone , so our First Amendment rights should apply as readily to financial  centers as they do to an abortion clinic.  How about gun stores?  Shall I bounce down to my local firearms emporium and sweetly advise the customers that the Lord wishes for them to beat their weapons into plowshares?  That He wants them to turn the cheek rather than stand their ground?  I can make posters of dead children, and whisper in dulcet tones that the Lord does not need any more angels blown to bits by gunfire?  I would clearly be exercising my First Amendment right to express my (and the Bible’s) unhappiness with the freewheeling use of their Second Amendment rights, would I not?   I’m only trying to be helpful,  to let them know how much I care and that I can assure the customers that Jesus loves them, despite their misguided, though legal, activities.  I now know that this is my absolute right, written in law and confirmed by SCOTUS.  The Supremes have spoken, and  the right to privacy of a pregnant woman isn’t worth a puddle of warm spit when measured against a protester’s right to free speech, so maybe we should just join them and exercise ours, ad libertarium.

Do not annoy me with Tenth Amendment drivel about business’ rights to free enterprise, because protesters are infringing the clinic gynecologist’s right as well, and apparently that does not measure up to free speech and religion.  Therefore, it is our constitutional right to share our loving opinions with perceived miscreants of all stripes, even when they are going about their perfectly legal everyday lives.  I believe that they require religious redirection, and by God, it’s my constitutional right to share my opinion, free of buffer zones.

I’m not even going to start on Hobby Lobby.  All I know is that industry has once again found a way to get the government to pay for things so corporations don;t have to, as evidenced by the decision to give parity to a “Closely held” religious corporation with a true not-for-profit group.  Do we need to make book on the number of corporate boards that will suddenly undergo a mass epiphany?  Praise the Lord, and pass the federal funding. There is plenty of excellent precedent set by Wal-Mart, McDonald’s, and more companies too numerous to mention that already have the taxpayers footing the bill for Medicaid and SNAP for their employees who are too poorly compensated to afford such luxuries  as food and health care for their children.  What do they care?  They’re already paying lower tax rates than the average person. The only good thing that may come of this will be the ability to get more Democrats voted into office.  Not that they are all that great, but they are better than this.

This is an open thread.

Good Thursday, Widdershins.

First, allow me as a Florida resident to thank the state of Arizona for distracting the entire nation from whatever-the-hell- it -is than we have done lately.  I find myself basking in the roseate glow of another state being roasted over the open fire of public opinion.  It’s really quite refreshing.

While AZ richly deserves the ire of the masses for the unfortunate piece of legislation that would permit businesses of all stripes to deny services to the LGBT community, they are hardly alone in this endeavor.   Kansas, Georgia, Mississippi, Idaho. Tennessee, Oklahoma, Utah, Missouri, Ohio, and Oregon are all in various stages of crafting eerily similar legislation as we speak.  Somehow, Arizona appears to be carrying the load on this particular fiasco.

No one appears to be entirely certain about the source of all of this ill will.  There have been some instances, especially in the wedding industry, of vendors denying services to members of the LGBT community on the basis of religious scruples.   If such legislation stands, it will effectively immunize the vendors from suit.   Even more unclear is the timing – almost all of these bills hit the various legislatures within a brief period of time, kind of like the rolling cavalcade of crap that sprang from ALEC after 2010, but this really does not appear to be an ALEC maneuver.  This appears to be more of a Tony Perkins type of event.  Oddly, no one in the more ostentatious Christian Movement appears to be claiming credit for the bills at this time.

The Republican Regulars are horrified, and well they might be.  Delta, Dell, Southwestern, American Express, the NBA, WNBA, Verizon, Marriott, Intel, Yelp and a host of other businesses are unhappy about this maneuver.  The NFL is reserving judgement, but the scheduled Super Bowl may well be in jeopardy.  All of these things could easily cost the state billions should this bill become law.  Both Senators McCain and Flake are urging Governor Brewer to veto the legislation. Three state legislators now claim that they did not really understand the (two page) bill when they voted for it, and are demanding a Mulligan.    The Guv says that she needs time to really study the (two page) bill prior to making a decision.

Basically, this seems to be the usual Repub legislative maneuver of tossing a bone to the Evangelical community in order to curry favor for the forthcoming election so that they might ensure their ongoing power.  Unfortunately for them, the party appears to have clean forgotten that they are owned and operated by corporate America, and corporate America is as intolerant of financial loss as the Evangelicals are of the LGBT community.  What’s a poor legislator to do???

As far as the Evangelicals of my acquaintance go, they are horrified at the march of progress, and even more horrified at their inability to put a stop to all of this change.  Therefore, their only open avenue is to “protect” themselves by claiming religious freedom, which would thus serve to insulate from “them”, from adverse public opinion, as well as from potential litigation.   We already permit pharmacists to decline to dispense Plan B, and Catholic institutions to opt-out of contraceptive coverage by punting to the insurer.  I understand how the Evangelical community now believes that any and all of their personal boogeymen might be tamed by claiming religious freedom, as it has worked so well in the matter of contraception.   What they fail to comprehend is that their religious liberty ends where another’s liberties begin, and that their right to practice their religion does not include the prerogative to force others to practice it with them.  No statute forces them to provide a service, but there will be no legal cover for bigotry.

This is an open thread.

UPDATE”  Governor vetoes AZ bill just as I finish writing.  (Of course.)  Now, we wait and see what happens next.  I have a feeling that we are not yet out of the woods here, although I would dearly love to be proven wrong.

Good Thursday, Widdershins.

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) has recently made the astounding discovery that he is also a citizen of Canada.  Astounding to him, at least.

Senator Cruz was born in Calgary to an American mother and a Cuban father who fled to the US, but did not become a citizen until 2005.  His parents were working in (what else?) the oil industry at the time, and a few years later returned to Texas.  Cruz received his undergraduate degree from Princeton, and his JD from Harvard.  He was named primary editor of the Harvard Law Review.   

Sen. Cruz enjoyed a top-notch Ivy League education, and  is described by many as “off the charts brilliant”, and indeed has a meteoric career in politics. Nevertheless, this “OTC”  brilliant man was quite surprised to discover that he holds Canadian citizenship as a birthright, along with the American citizenship passed on by his mother.  Who knows, perhaps he is a Cuban citizen courtesy of his father as well.  At ant rate, Sen. Cruz insists that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship tout suite, dissociating himself once and for all from our pantywaist neighbors to the north who insist that their citizens are entitled to a decent lifestyle.

This is a revolting development for a man who seemingly has is eye on the prize of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.  I have been fascinated by the reactions of my Fundie friends who ranted and raved about Barack Obama not being an American citizen because he had a Kenyan father and probably wasn’t even born here.  Somehow, Ted’s Cuban father and Canadian birth are fine and dandy, because after all, it’s Canada.  Canada, I suppose is actually a suburb of the nearest American city of your choice, while Kenya does not possess a contiguous border with the US.  The same Fundies who screamed and carried on about Obama being a first-term senator when he ran are fine with it with Cruz, because he has “fresh, new ideas”.  This is deja vu all over again, albeit with a rightward twist.  Amazingly, my Fundie friends do not see anything even remotely odd about their sudden change of feelings.  It all seems quite reasonable to them.  Even those pinko institutions of higher learning attended by the Obamas have suddenly become academic meccas now that they have discovered that Cruz matriculated within their ivy-laden walls.  Go figure.

Seriously, I’m not certain that anyone knows for certain if Senator Cruz is actually eligible to run.  The Constitution states that only natural citizens may hold the office without actually describing what that means.  The question came up when Sen. John McCain ran, but was quickly answered by the fact that he was born in the Canal Zone when his father was posted there.  At the time, the Canal Zone was an American territory, plus his father was in the Navy and US military bases are considered to be US soil and issue US birth certificates.  (My BFF was born in Cavite, Philipines while his father was assigned there and has his original “US Registration of Live Birth” form.)  But what the hey, exactly, is a “natural citizen”?

For those of us born to American parents on American soil, that’s easy.   We are most definitely “Natural” citizens.  After that, things get murky.  I have heard a number of Constitutional law professors mumble something to the effect that “yeah, probably, Ted Cruz is a ‘natural’ citizen”, but that falls somewhat short of being a ringing endorsement.  The Supremes have never weighed in on the matter, so who knows?

I must, however. give props to Donald Trump here.  When asked about Sen. Cruz’ ability to run for President, he replied “Probably not”.  At least he is consistent.

As for the Canadians, they thus far do not appear to be too broken up by Sen. Cruz’ announcement that he plans to disavow his Canadian citizenship.  Tweets from our northern neighbor have run the gamut from “Ted who?” to “Good riddance to bad rubbish.”  From what I’ve read, it’s going to take Ted the better part of a year to ditch them, as he has to explain in writing why he does not wish to be a Canadian (that should be interesting), and undergo some sort of security clearance.  It’s not quite as simple as saying “I renounce thee” three times.

The Cruz candidacy may take off, or may stall out at the first hard turn.  I have to believe that the Canadian birth might be a little bit awkward, but time will tell.  If nothing else, it could be intereresting to watch.

This is an open thread.  Come on, everyone – let’s stand on cars and freeze.

Greetings from South Florida, where the fun simply never stops.

Back in March, a professor at Florida Atlantic University held a classroom exercise which was taken from a textbook entitled Intercultural Communication, A Contextual Approach.  The textbook and accompanying instructor’s manual were written by a man named Jim Neuliep, a professor at Saint Norbert’s College.  Sr. Norbert’s is a private, Catholic liberal arts college located in DePere, Wisconsin.  Mr/ Neuliep has used the exercise with his students in the above referenced Catholic college without incident or controversy.   Apparently, no one else has had a problem with the exercise in the other institutes of higher learning that have used the book, either.   Here it is, straight from the instructor’s manual:

“This exercise is a bit sensitive, but really drives home the point that even though symbols are arbitrary, they take on very strong and emotional meanings. Have the students write the name JESUS in big letters on a piece of paper. Ask the students to stand up and put the paper on the floor in front of them with the name facing up. Ask the students to think about it for a moment. After a brief period of silence, instruct them to step on the paper. Most will hesitate. Ask why they can’t step on the paper. Discuss the importance of symbols in culture.

The point of the exercise is to engender discussion of the importance of symbols, and our emotional attachments.  The author states that most students are hesitant to step (not stomp) on the paper, and that asking them about the reluctance leads to a healthy class discussion.

Earlier this year, FAU professor DeAndre Poole offered the exercise to his class on a voluntary basis.  No one was forced to participate.  In one sense, the exercise worked like a charm, as there has been no end of conversation subsequent to this event.   It seems, however, that  the voluntary nature was unsatisfactory to at least one student.   Junior Ryan Rotela, a devout Mormon,  not only declined to participate, but also punched a fist into his open hand and stated that he wished that he could punch the professor.  Unsurprisingly, that bought him a suspension from the university. Mr. Rotela handled the news of his suspension by shrieking that he had been punished for his steadfast refusal to stomp on Jesus.  At that point, all hell broke loose.

Needless to say, all of the fundie churches, aided and abetted by the Tea Party, rallied  to Ryan’s defense.  Rev. Mark Boykin, (The Church of All Nations),  Ren. Nesl Dozier (Worldwide Christian Church), and Danita Kilkullin (Ft. Lauderdale Tea Party) held a rally of a whopping 175 people on campus in support of Neal.  Local conservatives (and there are not millions of them), gleefully pointed out that Poole is the vice-chairman of the Palm Beach County Democratic Party, which of course proves that all Democrats are heathens.  Even our beloved governor got into the act, labeling the event as intolerant, and demanded a complete report.  (Take that, heathens!  The Governor wants a report.)

Despite the fact that Rotela was actually suspended for threatening a professor, FAU caved under the ranting, raving, and ongoing media circus.  Rotela was reinstated, and the university actually issued an apology to him.  Next, the administration removed the offending exercise from the course.  As for Professor Poole, he in on leave of absence because of the ongoing threats being made to him.

Anyone with such utterly delicate sensibilities is ill-served in a public university.  No state university should ever bend itself to the will of religious zealots of any stripe, nor should they compromise the First Amendment.   There are plenty of non-secular colleges and university out there that would welcome such scholars, but avoid St. Norbert’s, where  they actually ask you to think.

This is an open thread.

Telephone, n.  An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance.  ~Ambrose Bierce

I don’t think that it comes as anything resembling a surprise that this country is sharply divided on the question of elective termination of pregnancy.  The last decade has had some rather spectacular examples of just how far the “antis” are willing to go in order that the rest of we heathens are sufficiently impressed with the depth of their beliefs.  Dr. George Tiller died, any number of clinics have been bombed, and the perpetrators are treated as folk heroes rather than the murderous individuals that they are.  Two state legislatures contemplated (albeit briefly) adding laws to consider adding the killing of an abortionist to the list of justifiable homicides.  During their less blood-thirsty moments, fervent anti-abortionists have bombarded the offices of providers with endless telephone calls begging them to reconsider their career choices.

As for the rest of us, we’ve been pretty well speechless in the face of this.  Oh, we’ve counseled caution, huffed about a woman’s right to choose, suggested that we consider proper family planning teaching.  Our reward has been schools teaching abstinence, funding cuts for Planned Parenthood and other clinics and Rush Limbaugh’s  defamation of a Georgetown student being lauded in certain circles.  Probably none of us will ever shoot anti-abortion protesters, but it seems that there may be something that we can do.

I have a new hero, and his name is Todd Stave.  Todd inherited an office building from his father that houses an abortion provider.  He has been familiar with protesters picketing, praying,lighting candles and displaying gory photographs outside of the building, and supports their right to do so under the First Amendment.  The protestors, however, began to gather outside of his daughters school and then began calling his home at all hours of the day and night demanding that he terminate the lease, and to let him know that they were praying for his soul.  Todd first got angry, then he figured out a way to get even.

He began to write down the telephone numbers of the callers, and enlisted his friends who enlisted their friends, and so forth.  Soon the callers were receiving hundreds of telephone calls from people who spoke softly and nicely thanking them on behalf of the Stave family for their prayers.  The callers also advised that the Stave family could not and would not terminate the lease, as they believe in choice.

Word spread, and a new association has formed – Voice of Change.  From their website:

For too long, the abortion discussion has been dominated by angry, nasty protests fueled by individuals and organizations that thrive on sensationalism and extremism. Now it is our turn.
“Voice of Choice” was established as a calm, measured response to anti-abortion activists who engage in misguided, raging protest tactics that are often ill-informed and only serve to victimize women, pro-choice professionals, law-abiding businesses and unaligned bystanders.
We use email, telephone and social media in peaceful, person-to-person counter-protests against groups that target abortion facilities, providers and patients, as well as their families and communities. We don’t question anyone’s right to express opinions and ideals; we challenge their bullying tactics and their contempt.

Widdershins, I am beyond excited.  I am retired, have a telephone service with unlimited long-distance calling, and I can sit here all day and make phone calls.  As a triage nurse in public hospitals, I’ve been called almost everything that you can think of, so negative feedback will not be particularly distressing.  If this catches on, perhaps we can make the PLUBS realize that we need reasonably priced prenatal care, the same sort of maternity leave that’s available in other enlightened nations, accessible child care and family planning.  I think that the latter issues would be of more general value to society than brandishing posters of mangled fetuses to the world.  If you have some time and would like to help, sign up and the website.

This is an open thread.

Another week has passed, and with it, another apogee of fundiegelical batshittery has been achieved. Now, it’s difficult to reach those dizzying heights, what with all the pure-d ignorance and outright insanity bombarding our airwaves, but I think this man has done it. Behold the glory of Senator Shortey!

A Republican state senator in Oklahoma has introduced a bill banning aborted human fetuses in food, despite the fact that there are no known foods or food products that actually contain aborted fetuses.

Sen. Ralph Shortey of Oklahoma City introduced on Tuesday Senate Bill 1418, which prohibits “the sale or manufacture of food or products which contain aborted human fetuses.” He says he based the bill on an article he read online about an anti-abortion group boycotting companies that allegedly use embryonic stem cells to research and develop artificial sweeteners.

“People are thinking that this has to do with fetuses being chopped up and put in our burritos,” Shortey told NewsOK. “That’s not the case. It’s beyond that.”

Wait….it’s “BEYOND THAT?!” My ears are all perked up with (admittedly, morbid) curiosity. Win the Future could possibly be beyond chopping up already aborted fetii and using them for Tex-Mex?

“There are companies that are using embryonic stem cells to research and basically cause a chemical reaction to determine whether or not something tastes good or not,” he said. “As a pro-life advocate, it kind of disturbed me that we would use aborted embryos or aborted human fetuses to extract stem cells and use them for research to basically make things taste better.”

I have to wonder what kind of twisted brain comes up with this sh*t. First of all, there is no evidence whatsoever that this happens, so I think we can disregard his explanation as the giant pile of elephant poop it is. No, I believe the true explanation is that these pro-death crazoids are trying to introduce into the American bloodstream yet another poisonous meme: Women not only abort fetuses, which makes them murderers: but they actually do the unthinkable afterwards and EAT THEM. OMG! Demons! Spawn of Satan! Out, out, damned wimminz!

As laughable as this lunacy is, I think we need to address it, because it’s all of a piece with the general theme of the pro-death movement in America: Women Can’t Be Trusted.

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All things considered, the past few days could have been worse.

courtesy of The Orlando Sentinel

Fredster’s Bayou Bengals won a nail-biter of a defensive struggle.

Fuzzy’s Gators crawled out of the muck and dominated in the Swamp.

My beloved Bulldogs won a decisive victory, and demonstrated one of the strangest plays that I have ever seen in more than fifty years of religiously following college football..  UGA’s football stadium’s true name is Sanford Stadium, but it is surrounded by a beautiful privet hedge measuring five feet high by five feet deep, so we usually refer to the field as “Between the Hedges”.  This being our Homecoming game, we played New Mexico State University as sort of a “planned victory”.  By the end of the second quarter of play, many of the starters had been pulled. It was almost halftime, the band was ready to take the field, and there was time for one more play. The opening picture is the end result, and the youtube will demonstrate how this extraordinary scenario occurred. Watch the youtube until the end, and tell me that Tight End Aron White won’t remember forever his first collegiate touchdown catch.  I know that this particular alumna will never, ever forget it:

The cat show went fairly well.  For the most part I was able to disengage (with much less difficulty that the pictured football player)  from the Fundie fervor swirling around Barack Obama, the European Union, the United Nations, and the World Bank.  I did break down at one point to inquire why any of the above referenced entities would want the guy who couldn’t solve his own fiscal problems.  Thereafter I skulked off and chilled out with the Scientologists for the balance of the show.

In the not-so good news department, we lost Andy Rooney, and he will not be easily replaced.  Love him or hate him, he was/is an iconic figure.  Andy Williams has been diagnosed with prostate cancer, and Joe Frazier passed away while in hospice care.

The Hermanator is losing it, and snapping at reporters, who are (of course) to play for the sexual harassment controversy.  From The Huffington Post:

THE WOODLANDS, Texas — Republican presidential contender Herman Cain on Saturday vowed to answer no more questions about decade-old sexual harassment allegations and blamed journalists for the claims that have dogged his campaign.

Growing agitated with reporters after a one-on-one debate with rival Newt Gingrich, the former business executive suggested the reporters who asked questions about the allegations were unethical. Asked if he planned to never answer questions about the incidents, he was certain.

“You got it,” he snapped, even as the allegations leave plenty of doubt about Cain’s candidacy.

And, per HuffPo, it goes way downhill from there:

Sharon Bialek, the fourth woman to come out and make sexual harassment allegations against Herman Cain, appeared alongside her attorney Gloria Allred at a press conference on Monday.

According to Bialek, the Republican presidential candidate exhibited inappropriate behavior when he was serving as head of the National Restaurant Association more than a decade ago.

Bialek said the alleged incident in question occurred down the street from the NRA headquarters. Describing what happened, she said, “Instead of going into the offices, he suddenly reached over and put his hand on my leg, up my skirt, and towards my genitals.” She recalled that when she protested the advances, he asked “You want a job, don’t you?”

One thing above all has me puzzled about the Cain affair.  Why is there no Tea Party mutiny???  Okay, so maybe they aren’t blown away by the sexual advances, or maybe they are buying into Cain’s protestations of innocence.  However, if you run the National Restaurant Association, you are by definition a lobbyist.  Isn’t  his “charm” supposed to be that of a structured businesslike “Washington outsider”?  I vote that Herman goes into the hedges next.  He is a son of Georgia after all, and that gives him a certain priority despite not having matriculated there.

Also, Conrad Murray, M.D. was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.  ( He would probably volunteer to change places with the guy in the hedges.)   This is academically interesting to me as a nursing professional, and I’m wondering if it won’t be overturned on appeal.  If not, every case of malpractice or even malfeasance is a potential manslaughter trial.  I agree that he appears to have been  negligent in his administration of Propofil – no doubt about that.  It would not be a stretch to call his actions both recklass and wanton.  I agree that a cardiologist really would not be my first choice of a specialist in this event.  That said, there is no law against what Dr. Murray did.  The medical profession has mightily  resisted any form of legal restraint on its field of practice.  Once you have a valid medical license, you may practice any specialty that your heart desires.  Most ethical physicians do a residency and perhaps a fellowship, but there’s just nothing that compells further study.  The onus for proper selection are placed squarely on the patient.  My best advice – be really, really nosy.  Check out his/her credentials.  While it is not illegal for a GP to do cosmetic surgery, you have to be pretty careful.   In the past, hospitals really scrutinized credentials, and some still do.  These days, medicine is profit driven, and not always hospital based.  A number of procedures can be done safely  in the office.  Office procedures aren’t all bad, if the physician’s staff is licensed, but most are not.  Choose carefully, my friends.

Meanwhile, back in the nation’s capital, Speaker John Boehner (he probably has a hedge fund) is hurt that so many Americans fail to get that the Republican party is laboring tireless in their behalf.  Check this out, from Politico:

It’s not about serving the rich, Boehner says

House Speaker John Boehner disputes the notion that Republicans are “servants of the rich.”

“That’s very unfair,” Boehner said in an interview aired Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.” “Listen, I come from a family of 12. My dad owned a bar. I’ve got brothers and sisters on every rung of the economic ladder.”

“What our job here in Congress is to do – and the reason I came here 21 years ago – was to make sure that the American dream that was available to us is available for our kids and our grandkids. That – most people don’t believe that’s the case today.”And, frankly, I’ve got concerns that it may not be the case,” the Ohio Republican went on. “We can’t have government debt that’s snuffing out the future for our kids and grandkids. We can’t have a government that’s taking in 30, 40 cents out of every dollar from our kids and grandkids to pay for government. That’s – you can’t have both. And I do believe that my – my job and my vision is to make sure the American dream is alive and well for everyone in America.”

{{{{Yawn!}}} Thank you, Mr. Speaker, who refuses to endorse any Republican candidate thus far.  As far as the latter goes, you may be slightly brighter that I has previously suspected.  However, your home district is badly fractured over the new law that more or less dissolves public unions.  From MoJo:

Todd Morgan, a 42-year-old Huber Heights resident, told me his own union membership will make his no vote an easy one. But he stresses that’d he vote to repeal SB 5 regardless. A few doors down, Chastity Barger, 32, stands in a garage finishing off a cigarette. She cites her dad’s union membership and her friends’ opposition to Issue 2 on Facebook to justify her decision to vote no. Susanne Vulgamore, 61, a retired teacher in Tipp City, doesn’t think partisan politics is a factor. “I have not seen it broken down by party issues,” she says. “It’s that everyone knows a teacher, or knows a spouse who’s a teacher or firefighter.”

“Most people are caving to the fear that cops and firefighters are going to disappear,” says Kevin Keller, 46

People also seem irked about how SB 5 was passed in the first place. Introduced by GOP state Sen. Shannon Jones, whose district overlaps with Boehner’s, it was rammed through the legislature despite sizeable public protests. In the process, it grew to more than 300 pages, an off-putting length to nearly every Ohioan I interview. “I’m just not in agreement with the way the politicians went about pushing the changes on us versus negotiating with unions,” says Joey Johnson, 51.

And conversely

 “Most people are caving to the fear that cops and firefighters are going to disappear,” says Kevin Keller, 46, as he crossed the main drag in the town of Piqua. “But that’s so overblown.”

Other supporters claim Kasich’s bill was aimed at helping Main Street. “I think the governor’s trying to save money,” says Eric Baker, 29, who was shopping in the town of Troy. “It’s gonna make cash-strapped towns like this one be able to survive and get by.”

But nearly everyone, regardless of their stance, predicted Issue 2’s defeat—and recent poll numbers suggest that it could well be toast. AJ Smith believes the widespread opposition underscores how little the usual political lines matter in this particular fight. “This is not about Democrats; this is not about Republicans,” he says. “This is about right and wrong.”

As for Speaker Boehner, he has decided that the HR will be in session a whopping – wait for it – 109 days during 2012.  That’s ten days less than the stellar 119 that the House spent doing the people’s business.  A-hem!   Fundraising and campaigning for 2012 much? I am admittedly of two minds on this one – are we actually better off with them working, or with them gone? Hmmmm…….

Here’s to Tuesday, Widdershins.  This is an open thread.

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NEXT DEMOCRATIC DEBATES

The next set of Democratic debates – 2 nights again, will be July 30th and 31st on CNN.

Not sure of times.

Lineup for Detroit Dem Debates

NIGHT ONE, Tuesday, July 30, 9 pm Eastern each night

  •     Steve Bullock
  •     Pete Buttigieg
  •     John Delaney
  •     John Hickenlooper
  •     Amy Klobuchar
  •     Beto O’Rourke
  •     Tim Ryan
  •     Bernie Sanders
  •     Elizabeth Warren
  •     Marianne Williamson

 

NIGHT TWO, Wednesday, July 31:

  •     Michael Bennet
  •     Joe Biden
  •     Cory Booker
  •     Julián Castro
  •     Bill de Blasio
  •     Tulsi Gabbard
  •     Kirsten Gillibrand
  •     Kamala Harris
  •     Jay Inslee
  •     Andrew Yang

Moderators will be Dana Bash, Don Lemon and Jake Tapper

There’s even info on who stands where but I’m not interested in who is in the center square.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/cnn-dnc-pick-second-debate-lineups-1422147