The Widdershins

Musings on Women’s Rights

Posted on: July 3, 2022

Hello, Widdershins! Well, we had our Independence Day here in America. It was marked by yet more preventable, tragic mass shootings, this time on the very Jewish North Shore of Chicago. The media is just so puzzled as to what his motive could be, despite his attempts to attack a synagogue two months before the attack and being a MAGA cultist extraordinaire. Yes, I canNazi what it could be!

As for women’s rights, the other disastrous SCOTUS decision we’ve had recently, I’ve seen a lot of this kind of sentiment online.

I understand the sentiment, and I, of course, agree that women have lost federal protection for bodily autonomy. I am full of the white-hot fury of 1000 suns. And yet with all of that, I still celebrated the 4th of July this year.

On Independence Day, I’ve always celebrated the American ideal versus the reality. The fact is, I’ve never felt safe in this country. I’ve had a difficult history with sexual assault, starting at the age of 5 and continuing through my childhood and into adulthood. At work, I’ve experienced various forms of harassment, including one co-worker staring at my chest for several minutes till I crossed my arms over my breasts.

I’ll bet every woman in America has similar stories, some a lot worse than mine. The bottom line is, men think we’re their property and it’s okay to do whatever they want to us. Because the Bible says we came from a man’s rib, and of course, we’re inherently wicked because we ate the apple in the Garden of Eden.

Unfortunately, their attitudes have their roots in reality. There actually is no protection in the Constitution for women, and it’s obvious why: it was written in 1787! In those days, women had no legal independence – we were legally considered property of our husbands – and the document reflects that. (Black people were also considered property; that is a whole OTHER conversation.) It makes an awful kind of sense that this country, despite its aspirations of “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” being enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, treats women so poorly. When the document that is the foundation of our law does not even mention the word “woman,” there is a fundamental flaw that Christofascists can exploit. And so they have, for now.

While the talking point online is now to elect more Democrats so we can pass the Women’s Health Protection Act and other important bills that are stalled because of the filibuster, few people are talking about electing more Democrats to ratify the ERA, which I believe would be a lot more effective in protecting the rights of women and LGBTQ. The organization “Equality Now” was prescient in making the case for the ERA before the Dobbs decision:

While the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment has been interpreted to protect against discrimination on the basis of sex, that understanding of the Amendment is not assured or guaranteed.

The Fourteenth Amendment was passed in 1868 and it was not until over a century later, in the 1970s, that the U.S. Supreme Court began to apply the Equal Protection Clause to cases of sex discrimination. However, with its 1976 ruling in Craig v. Boren, the Court found that men and women could be treated differently under the law if such treatment served an “important governmental objective” without being in violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Additionally, laws like Title IX and the Equal Pay Act are not permanent protections for women and can be rescinded or replaced at any time.

With the ERA, there is no room for doubt that discrimination on the basis of sex has no place in the United States.

That’s all very well, you might be saying, but, can we still pass the ERA? Yes, we can! There is a time limit for ratification; but after Virginia became the 38th state to ratify in January of 2020, a joint resolution was introduced in the House and Senate declaring that time limit removed. This happened on Day 1 of Biden’s Presidency. Once we elect more Democrats to Congress and get past the filibuster, it is entirely possible to get equality enshrined in the Constitution.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that Congress should pass laws that protect all marginalized people from discrimination by the white supremacist minority. But let’s be like the QOP in one way only – let’s take a multi-pronged approach to achieving our goals. Passing laws, using obscure Constitutional language to limit the power of the rogue SCOTUS, AND enshrining the ERA – let’s do it all.

For example:

And someday, maybe our ideals will match our reality, and we’ll achieve true independence.

111 Responses to "Musings on Women’s Rights"

Great post MB.

I have mixed feeling about how things will get better and as much as I hate to say it, men feel safe that women are weaker, many are dependent on men it they are stay at home moms.

Put a gun in the men’s hands and there is no stopping them.

Basically, women only have words, tears and marching protests…because we don’t want to own anyone else. Unless there are some kick-ass women that come out as leaders in all states, like Hillary and a handful of others I can think of…men will use women as slaves and doormats.

Yes, many of the women on both coasts, some in the north and some in the middle will never accept being a man’s slave and will fight tooth and nail to get our human rights back, but who’s fooling who…many woman are too afraid to stand up to their angry white husbands and threaten them in what ever way it takes to let them know they are not owned by them.

I want to be more optimistic about women’s plight, but at my age, women’s rights have gone full circle and we are right back were we were before Roe V Wade was passed. Back room abortions, incest rapes, blaming women if they don’t wear turtle neck sweaters or burqas every day…

I like that you are more optimistic than I am about this subject MB, I will try harder to hope and spread the word.

Shadow – I understand. I think the difference is (I hope) Gen Z. Millennials are generally apathetic and self-centered. I see them as the ones who sit out elections.

Gen Z women are not old enough to have voted before 2022. They are too modern to be shoved into burqas and agree to be men’s slaves. My friends’ girls are all like this.

I don’t know if things are different on the coasts for these young women. I feel like it transcends geography. Fingers crossed!

I saw somewhere that optimists handle problems better because they see them as solvable, figure out what they can do, and do it. You’re an excellent example of that, mb!

Me? I’m a melancholy part-Slav. That same article says the only group with consistently accurate assessments, at least in their studies, were the clinically depressed. That’s probably *why* they’re clinically depressed! :p

But, honestly, accuracy gets you nowhere if all it does is prevent action. As Israel’s great Gideon Levy said, “You have to be realistic enough to believe in miracles.”

They obviously keep happening or we’d all still live in trees.

Women would be better off living in tree-houses than to kowtow to a misogynistic white man. 😉

I hope the young people that normally avoid voting, come out in droves because of Roe v Wade, climate change and to not have a world run by Dump nutz.

Great post MB! Shadow, agree with all your comments.

It was a really great post, MB. Shadow said what I was thinking and feeling. There’s a line from the movie Tenet where the abusive husband says to his wife as she’s pointing a gun at him, “You’re not angry enough. Because anger scars over into despair.”

I think it’s a constant battle for women. At least it is for me. Anger vs despair. Here’s to hoping enough women are “angry enough” and sick enough of this shit to take action. Voting is the equalizer if women ever decide to really use it. It’s much more powerful than physical strength or guns (at least it is for now – while we still have a democracy). But we need women to vote. And we need a good chunk of women to STOP VOTING AGAINST US.

Like I was saying before, there is a vote in Kansas on Aug 2 to amend the State Constitution. Women had a right to bodily autonomy enshrined in our Constitution. Who could have guessed? In Kansas? That roadblock needs to be removed before they can pass “Open Season on Women” laws. In this religious nuthouse of a state, it should be a slam dunk. But who knows…

Quixote, fascinating comments about optimists vs. pessimists. The accuracy part is especially interesting. Are we optimists just wearing rose-colored glasses? Maybe, but maybe not. I would argue that optimists look more to the future than the past or present. It may seem like we’re accentuating the positive (as the song goes) at the expense of the negative, but really, what good does dwelling in the negative get you? I’m as upset as anyone about this horrible state of affairs for women, but, I also see how pissed off women are and I think they are ready to use their power at the ballot box. And, I’m going to do my very best to help them get there, despite living in a blue state (which I’ve never been happier about than right now!)

Speaking of our red state Widdershins, PJ, yes, I would believe it. There’s a book called “What’s the Matter with Kansas?” that details Kansas’ swing from progressive in the early 1920s, to its current magenta state (the Dem governor and Sharice Davids earns it a slight shade of purple).

Is the vote in Kansas for the public, or is the legislature voting?

MB, it’s for the public! Which makes it a tiny bit interesting. I’ll probably just be extremely disappointed when it passes even though I’m totally expecting it. Women actively voting for their own subjugation? Yes! Shaking my head. Brainwashing is a powerful thing and no one does it better than religion. When you’re told over and over that men know best, a lot of women believe it.

This is only interesting because it’s a stand alone vote. It’s not attached to a Republican vs Democrat. There is SUCH a red shirt vs blue shirt vibe here and loyalty to the team above all else. But in this case, people will actually have to think about an issue. Well, some people. Not the religious zombie types.

I’ve read that book, but it’s been a while. Kansas had an honorable past, a truly shitty present (since my time on this earth) and has a dim future. I think that makes me a pessimist. 🙂 Dems only get elected when Kansans want to punish Republicans. Again, showing my pessimism bona fides. But I do love surprises! I see this vote as a canary in the coal mine for the GOP. The odds are very much in favor of the little canary being just fine. But if not… Whoa, watch out.

(I am cautiously optimistic about the country at large!)

One more question for ya PJ, how do younger women feel about the overturn of Roe, and does global warming and other social issues move them closer to voting against the rethugs…or have white men and ‘God’ put the fear into them too?

Lots of younger women who thought that Roe would never be overturned and thought us older women were nagging pessimistic worriers might now start thinking we knew what we were talking about. I hope.

Luna @ lucky 13

I couldn’t agree more.

I have informed and almost begged younger women to not take the permanency of Roe for granted, for decades.

A couple of months ago, a 40 year old woman asked me if I am a feminist, I looked at her with a puzzled look on my face and said, “Why wouldn’t I be?”

Judge ain’t havin’ it.

A federal judge on Monday refused to delay Stephen K. Bannon’s trial next week after the Justice Department called an offer by the former Trump aide to testify before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection a “last-ditch attempt to avoid accountability” on charges of criminal contempt of Congress.

“I see no reason for extending this case any longer,” U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols said after a hearing in which he rejected a host of Bannon’s defenses — including claims that Bannon thought his appearance was covered by executive privilege. The judge narrowed Bannon’s defenses at trial mainly to whether he understood the deadlines for answering the House’s demands to appear and to produce documents.

It’s more than past time for the US to join the 100+ countries where OCPs are OTC!

A French drugmaker on Monday asked for permission to sell daily birth control pills over the counter for the first time in the United States, handing federal regulators a major reproductive health issue just as the Biden administration struggles to respond to the Supreme Court decision striking down the constitutional right to abortion.

Paris-based HRA Pharma said in a news release that it submitted its application to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for a progestin-only daily oral contraceptive. Progestin is a synthetic form of the hormone progesterone.

Pressure to make birth control pills available over the counter — as they are in more than 100 countries — has been building for years.

I would say that the younger women I know are much more independent. They tolerate a lot less sexism than my generation. They see abortion as a right that they should have (even the regular church goers), but it’s not high on their list of priorities. They don’t seem to be true believers as far as religion. They just see the advantages of going through the motions. So I wouldn’t call it fear exactly (like it was for me!) – more practicality. Playing the game. It’s much easier than trying to change the game.

These are Republican young women who believe in voting Republican. They worry about all the issues, but that has no affect on how they vote. The ones I know are really smart, but they do not connect the dots. When it comes to politics, they’re really just interested in their team winning. Maybe that will change?

Thank you for sharing, PJ! I hope you didn’t feel like I called you out :-). It’s just good to hear your perspective on women in a red state like Kansas.

I agree with Luna, I think the young ‘uns are mostly quite pissed off that SCOTUS is trying to control their lives to this degree. This includes young men as well.

To be fair, voting Republican never really impacted white peoples’ lives up until now. This Roe/Casey decision is the first that will really hurt white women. They always thought they’d have access to abortion because they had money. Now, the reality is hitting them hard.

BTW – how much does the media hate Biden? There is only so much he can do about SCOTUS and they’re piling on hard, even using the word “Limp” at one point. Not subtle.

Meanwhile, Republican polling is tanking across the nation, and 2022 looks really good for Democrats in the Senate, at least (don’t know what the House looks like). But sure, focus on how Biden and how terrible he allegedly is, all day, every day. The media is trying very hard to brainwash us into bringing the QOP back!

We’re talking about the same media that gave us Dump so… bloody hell.

Great news on Republicans tanking! There is hope for our democracy.

One more thing about the young Republican women I know. They thought Trump was a gross, disgusting old pig, but they were thrilled when he won in 2016. Why? Because WINNING. Isn’t that disturbing?

PJ on the reporting re young ‘uns. Interesting. I wonder how the Winning™ will strike them once it penetrates that it comes at *their* expense? Or maybe it will never penetrates because that would force them to rethink their lives? Depressing.

OTC contraceptives. Better late than never. So just doooo it! (I wish –wish, wish, wish– they would stop deeply mulling the obvious and GET ON WITH IT.) (Aarg. Sorry. Can’t stop shouting about this stuff.)

I do fear it will never penetrate, quixote. For the reason you stated. Yes, depressing.

Shadow, did you catch the good news about the time change for the J6 hearing tomorrow? 1:00pm Eastern, 10:00am Pacific.

If that’s incorrect, someone please correct.

Just watching Rachel tonight…looks like tomorrow’s hearing is going to be a barn burner!!

PJ thanks for the update on J6 hearing, donuts and coffee at 10 AM on the west coast. I don’t actually have donuts, but I wish I did.

Also, thanks for the info on the young women you know. What a bummer that they don’t see they are voting against all women’s rights, including their own. What happens if one of them needs to have an abortion to save their own lives?
Seems as though they are brain washed that voting is no more than a high school football game, where winning against their rivals is the most important thing for that week.
I have no idea how anyone changes their minds unless they start caring about the big picture of life.

The Dems had a similar problem when Hillary ran, both times. Young people didn’t want the intelligent woman that would have made lives better and had honest goals she could have met, no, they wanted Obama because he had an oh’shucks voice, was younger and was their dream-boat. They also preferred the old mad-hatter, Burning Man Bernie, that promised them free college, free health care, free everything they desired would fall from the sky…

Q, I’ve also seen studies which found that pessimists were more accurate in their judgements than optimists. Haven’t seen the ones that found optimists actually got more problems solved. Reference? I know, too many bookmarks and so much “I read an article on that … somewhere.”

I’m trying to find the quotation from a Thich Nhat Hanh book where he says that hope is unhelpful because it tricks us into looking to the future instead of being in the here and now, and therefore we never find peace or satisfaction now.

@24, Shadowfax, agree. Also misogyny, especially the disdain for older women, no matter how much wisdom and experience they have.

The ability of people to vote against their own self-interests floors me.

@24 Shadow, good point about young Dems (the old mad-hatter, LOL!). That’s very true. And good point Luna @26 as well. Also true. Plus, the media. The media was fcking ridiculous. Irresponsible. Both times.

Donuts do sound good! I don’t have any either… But I always have coffee! 🙂

@25 – I don’t think there’s much of a corollary between effectiveness and whether you’re an optimist or pessimist. I’d be interested in a study of there is one. I am personally very good at getting things done, but I could see a pessimist being just as good.

As for being accurate, I’d be curious about that too. Truth be told I think it’s more a matter of what conclusion one draws from the same set of facts. For.example, when Drumpf “won” I knew it was going to be absolutely horrible. But I also had faith in the American people and knew the Democrats would win everything back.from him – if we could survive. I chose to believe we would.

Finally about hope – I think it is essential to bring able to put one foot in front of the other. Because a lot of sh*t is terrible right now and it I just lived in that every day (which sometimes I do) I don’t know if I could get out of bed. That’s how one optimist feels about it, anyway.

And speaking of hope for women…

Also, the midterms are looking a lot better for Democrats. I don’t see the QOP doing anything to make it better – they’ve made their platform of theocracy + fascism abundantly clear.

Here we go…the hearing has begun!

I love listening to Raskin’s presentations.

Yes, the ‘Red Wedding’ is from GOT’s slaughter.

10 minute recess

This hearing is so full of info that it’s difficult to stop and blog about.
It has been talking about the meeting of Dump and his crazies, how men were screaming at each other and the meeting went on for hours.
Later, after this meeting is when Dump tweeted to his mob followers about coming to Jan 6th.

Yes, I watched the first 30 minutes of the hearing. So much was going on.

The opening was striking. Liz Cheney said that Drumpf’s lawyers are now trying to push a new theory – that he was misled by outside counsel and credulously believed them. This is being floated because it’s been conclusively proven that everyone “official” told Drumpf, in no uncertain terms, that he lost.

Cheney said, “This is a 76-year-old man, not a credulous child. There is no excuse or legal argument that will hold up.”


Oh and Jamie Raskin was brilliant. They showed some of Cipollone’s taped testimony but will not focus on that today.

Oath Keepers wanted a deck of cards on who to kill, Hillary was to be the Queen of Hearts!!!!

Shadow @24, well said.

I have a hectic day and can’t watch anything until tonight, so thanks for all the comments. @36, OMG! What f’ing loons!

Didn’t the US military have a Bin Laden + his lieutenants deck of cards when they were hunting him? I seem to remember that.

If that’s the example the goons are following, tells you something about how toxic to their “way of life” they think Dems are.

Bit mindboggling.

The quiet part out loud.

Q @39, “If that’s the example the goons are following…”

—Yes that is what they were following.

Not much of a surprise here.

Twitter went easy on Trump, ex-employee says

The former Twitter employee said the company considered adopting a stricter content-moderation policy after Trump, at a September 2020 presidential debate, told the far-right extremist group the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”

“My concern was that the former president, for seemingly the first time, was speaking directly to extremist organizations and giving them directives. We had not seen that sort of direct communication before, and that concerned me,” the former employee said. But Twitter, the former employee said, ultimately decided against the change, allowing Trump to continue to tweet without restriction.

“Twitter relished in the knowledge that they were also the favorite and most-used service of the former president and enjoyed having that sort of power within the social media ecosystem,” the employee said. If Trump had been “any other user on Twitter, he would have been permanently suspended a very long time ago.”

@40, GAgal, Bolton seems so blase’ about it all.

“Brilliant” — Trump was not, and that’s probably what saved us.

Twitter was easy on Drumpf, you say?

That would be the understatement of the year.

And the deck of cards thing – WOW! Incredible. They really think Democrats are like Al Qaeda?! Loony tunes for sure.

Major trade up for Huma.

Damn Huma! You go girl. I hope he treats her right!

(Um… who’s Bradley Cooper? Asking for a friend who lives under a rock. 😆 )

Q @48, He’s an actor. I can’t remember what he’s been in though.

I’ve never heard of Bradley Cooper either nor does his photo look familiar. He doesn’t look at all special. He’d better treat Huma right. I’ve also no idea what Anna Wintour does although the name’s familiar.

Anna Wintour is or was the editor of Vogue magazine.

Bradley Cooper is an actor that has won or was nominated for a lot of awards. Looking at the movies he has been in, I haven’t watched any of them.

Of course, I’ve seen a lot of the movies he’s been in. 🙂 He played a total dick in “Wedding Crashers”. Let’s hope he’s not anything like that. I think he’s a good actor. I hope he’s a good person.

I haven’t had a chance to watch the J6 hearing, dammit. Best laid plans and all that…

I appreciate the comments! A “Red Wedding”. Wow.

Re Bradley Cooper, as Shadow said, he’s very well-known. In addition, I think he’s quite handsome (that’s a terrible picture of him with Huma).

Based on the reactions from the Widdershins, I think PJ and I might be the movie fans in this crowd. 😀

I haven’t been to a movie since the pandemic started. I watch everything online, including movies and tv.
The ones that Cooper has been in are not the kind of movies I like.

I watched A Star is Born with Barbra Streisand and Kris Kristofferson,(loved it), and watching it again with Lady Gaga and Cooper doesn’t interest me at all.

Just sayin’ 😉

Thanks for the info. Nobody is better informed than a group of ‘Shinners!

The last new (meaning not rewatching a Buster Keaton or something) movie I remember seeing was Chicken Run. What can I say?

I loved Chicken Run!

“Oh, yes. Those chickens are up to something. They’re organized, I know it.”

Yes they were!

Shadow – your instinct are dead on with the Gaga version of “A Star is Born.” The movie was awful. A huge waste of a great performance by Cooper. Gaga was meh – her voice was the point.

Quixote, Chicken Run! I love it!!

Oh – got distracted. I came to post this! Biden swinging the hammer.

Luna, you will like this – finally someone is coming to the defense of JK Rowling. She is not transphobic for saying that you can’t change your sex. It’s a medical fact! I have yet to see a trans woman who can grow a uterus.

MB @ 59, not many women could follow Streisand’s voice, but Gaga isn’t even in the same ballpark. IMHO

Good for Biden, as long as the government is willing to prosecute
offenders quickly.

@61 the tide seems to be slowly turning on the fact denialism of extreme transactivists. Honestly, what could be dumber than expecting everyone to parrot that sex doesn’t exist? Besides, #notalltranswomen. There are plenty of sensible human beings who have figured out how to be trans without denying the obvious.

@62 – not many can match Streisand!

@63 – I’m sure that’s right. I haven’t experienced it yet, but I only know one trans woman personally. She is more of the bullying type, unfortunately.

I think the Democratic messaging is just fine, no matter what social media says.

Quixote @63, I’m glad to hear it. The couple of times I made mild comments, the response was 95% vicious. I stopped commenting on it until a few days ago I just said I wanted to continue being referred to as a woman. I thought the guy might stop following me or something but nothing happened.

Re: A Star Is Born. There are two versions that came before Streisand and Gaga. (I may have seen the Streisand but don’t remember it. Have not seen the Gaga.) 1937 with Janet Gaynor and Frederic March; 1954 with Judy Garland and James Mason. Garland was awarded an Oscar for her performance. They occasionally show up on TCM. If you haven’t seen them, you should as they are both excellent.

Roz in NJ/NYC

@65 too often for it to be a coincidence, the most vicious responses to even mild comments are guys getting their misogynist jollies. They can’t get over how cool it is to dump on women and still be “progressive” at the same time. 🙄

Oh my. Made a comment and it vanished. Retyped it and it vanished again.


Hah, looks like WordPress has some new MRA moderators.

I’ve been dealing with bs from WP off and on for years on this site.
Wordpress, you suck big time!!!

I copy/pasted my comment, almost never do…but since I did, I am going to shout it to WP.
YOU SUCK!!!!!!

Quixote @ 67, “They can’t get over how cool it is to dump on women and still be “progressive” at the same time.”

You nailed it!

So, Ivana Trump died from falling down the stairs in her apartment. That seems kind of strange.

Like some of you, I’m also having trouble with WP. We’ll see if this posts.

@73, annie, “falling down stairs” seems to be an all-too-common way for inconvenient wives to die.

Man-chin is out to destroy Dems even further. He needs to get replaced, kicked out or held accountable as the dirty Rethug he is.

President Joe Biden vowed Friday to take “strong executive action” in response to moderate Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin torpedoing his party’s efforts toward writing sweeping climate action and tax legislation.

“If the Senate will not move to tackle the climate crisis and strengthen our domestic clean energy industry, I will take strong executive action to meet this moment,” Biden said in statement, while overseas in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Biden didn’t mention Manchin specifically.
The President vowed to “create jobs, improve our energy security, bolster domestic manufacturing and supply chains, protect us from oil and gas price hikes in the future, and address climate change,” but did not provide specifics on what kind of action he would take.
On Thursday night, Manchin dealt a devastating blow to Democrats’ hopes for sweeping legislative action this year, telling Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and his staff “unequivocally” that he won’t support the climate or tax provisions of a Democratic economic package, two sources familiar with the talks told CNN.

Or in this case, ex-wife. Though it could have been an accident.

@61, MB, good! Anyone who has read JKR’s essay and tweets knows she’s not transphobic. When I ask people to point out what sentences are transphobic they’ve always said “No Debate!” and refuse to read anything, much less quote anything. (Because they know they have no evidence?) Often followed by threats and name-calling.

As for Twitter, this thread is an example:

And a couple more examples, then I’ll end my rant.

I appreciate your rants, Luna. It seems like men are using the trans issue as just one more cudgel to beat up and abuse women with. @78 WOW.

@76 Manchin and Sinema need to be made irrelevant. The races are looking in good in PA and OH. We’re looking good to keep GA and AZ. We might even have a shot at Missouri – if they go with Eric Greitens. All thanks to Republican primary voters nominating curazy train candidates. And that POS Johnson is in for the fight of his life in WI (please Dems, Mandela Barnes, not Alex Lasry).

What I think is interesting is the surprising effect the J6 hearings are having on Republicans around here and it has nothing to do with Trump trying to destroy democracy (meh). This is what bothers them: A lot of Republicans I know like to think of themselves as the Party of the haves and the have mores (as W once joked). It’s not that they don’t have sympathy for people with less, but they kind of believe those people did it to themselves. Life isn’t fair, there are winners and losers, why should winners have to pay for losers? But day after day, the face of the Republican Party is MAGA. Working class whites. Lower class whites. Who use violence to “win” because that’s the only way they can win. In a word, losers (gasp). It was fine to take their votes, but now they ARE the Party. This is not ok with them.

Joy Reid (I think it was Thur?) had this Republican guy on – I think he was Paul Ryan’s wingman (that tells you a lot). Anyway, he was on Joy’s show because he was part of some conservative group who wrote a report that said yes, Trump lost. So this guy was so obnoxious in a dull, boring, make you want to blow your brains out kind of way. He did run-on sentences, monopolized the discussion, wouldn’t shut up to give someone else a turn because what he had to say was the most important and that’s the only thing that mattered. When Joy tried to interrupt, he just kept talking over her. Gawd! I was screaming at the TV. STFU, MF. And then the greatest thing happened. Someone in the control room was thinking the same thing and finally cut his mic. And then his picture. I was rolling on the floor. THANK YOU!

“Normal” Republicans suck just as bad as MAGAts. They can’t even follow the simple kindergarten rule of taking turns.

@77 The ex-ex Mrs. Trump’s death has officially been ruled an accident. The NY Medical Examiner’s Office issued a statement that she died of “blunt force trauma” caused by her falling down the stairs in her apartment. (NY Magazine said it was a spiral staircase.)

Roz in NJ/NYC

Oops! I erred in calling Ivana Trump’s place of residence an apartment. It’s a 7-story townhouse on E. 64th St., near Central Park.

The Washington Post notes that according to the CDC, more than one in four adults age 65+ fall each year and is the leading cause of injury-related deaths in that age group, the rate of deaths being 64 per 100,000.

Roz in NJ/NYC

Thanks to everyone, especially PJ, Shadow and Luna, for putting up with WordPress and its eating of your comments. How incredibly annoying and frustrating! I’m glad you’re sticking with us anyway.

PJ – @81 and @82 – that is really fascinating. They don’t like to see themselves as losers so they want to be on the winning side? Wow. Do they see us as the winning side? These folks can vote Dem if they want! Or are they more likely to vote independent? Either way, we win.

Annie and Roz – Ivana’s death is very strange; it came right around the time when the Mango Moron and his demon spawn were supposed to testify in the New York civil case against the Trump Org. I wonder if she was subpoenaed? Either way, their testimony is now delayed.

Luna – I have seen so many pile-ons of women on Twitter. Famous women like Bette Midler, who is a gay icon, are getting bashed for transphobia when they point out the differences between sex and gender. Smaller accounts are getting swarmed for saying similar things. No, you can’t change your sex and yes, the marginalization of women is due to sex. So when you pretend gender and sex are the same, you pretend the marginalization of women doesn’t exist.

Of course it is men identifying as trans women who are doing this – it’s not even well-hidden misogyny. It’s right out in the open.

Since Roe and Casey were overturned, I haven’t seen a mad rush of trans women defending women’s rights, have you? It’s all been about trans people and how they’re next. If trans women are women, why aren’t they allies?

I told my trans mentee this same thing. My entire existence has been defined by my sex, not my gender. And I told her, if Roe v. Wade is overturned it won’t impact your life, but it will certainly impact women’s lives.

Of course, the QOP have found a way to embroil trans women in this as well – the whole terrifying notion that women can’t cross state lines to get an abortion. What this will turn into is that no one presenting as a woman can cross state lines at all. Trans women will be caught in that net because visually, if you look like a woman you could be pregnant in their febrile little minds.

On a lighter note – this is awesome. Jersey trolling of Mehmet Oz.

Absolutely stunning.

Wow, this image of Jupiter looks like an acrylic painting. I wonder if those colors are true, if so, is the blue color water???

@86 I love that! @87 Whoa. I agree – absolutely stunning.

@85 I think they’re in wait-and-see mode. Hoping for a return to the grand old party of rich whites (the people I know are not rich, but see themselves as having enough money to be in the “winners circle”). They want to see if this MAGA trend continues (I also know true MAGAs and they *are* a little stinky. The smell probably comes from living in fever swamps or under rocks for too long). For the legacy Republican types, whose motto is, “Winning doesn’t mean anything unless someone else loses” (Westworld), having these losers front and center really is a problem. It puts them in the “losers circle”. They’re more likely to vote independent than Dem. Which as you say, is still good for us.

Another local antidote…

Yesterday, I was watching this woman walking up and down the street with an arm full of “Vote Yes (for forced birthing)” signs. The woman was thirty something and very overweight which I only mention because it’s extremely hot here and she did not look well. It’s not safe for anyone to be out in this heat for too long and she had her 3 or 4-year-old daughter with her. Anyway, she was not getting many takers – which could mean anything, I know.

Then later, I was driving and saw quite a few “Vote Yes” signs but also more than a few “Vote No/Save Choice” signs. I was shocked that those people felt brave enough to have a sign like that in their yard. I could be wrong, but maybe the power wielded by the anti-choice zealots (who use extreme bullying and intimidation tactics) could be waning…

@89, that last bit about pro-choice signs appearing in Kansas? One of the most hopeful things I’ve heard in a long time.

I wonder if it’s too much to hope that the Repubs going beyond forced birth and into Fugitive Slave Act 2.0 has finally woken some people up as the what their agenda is.

Anecdote. 🙂

Shadow, the blue in the Jupiter photo is not water, in the sense of liquid that could rain on you or something. There may well be some water molecules in the mix; don’t know. Jupiter is a gas giant, so the upper layers you can see are all gases. Mostly hydrogen, but also even more unfriendly stuff like ammonia.

@90 Especially in this corner of Kansas! I think you’re right, quixote. They’re starting to scare people. What’s really upsetting people here (I think), is the no exception for rape or incest. That’s just too vile for a lot of people.

Q @92
Oh darn, it would have been such a fun planet with lots of sea life if it was swirling oceans. 😉

@93 – I think the same thing. The story about the 10-year-old rape victim who got pregnant and had to go across state lines to get an abortion was extremely damaging to Republicans (I saw this on Politico).

It’s one thing to feel like abortion is murder and not want it legalized. It’s another to truly see how and why people get abortions – including little girls who are getting their periods at the age of 8 now! The wingnuts have controlled this narrative for so long that their myths about the procedure have taken hold.

I would also say that the issue of child rape has been very much squashed by the rightwing pedophiles, who seem to be quite enmeshed in the QOP. I continue to believe that Epstein and Maxwell were serving a very large number of QOP officials and donors, in conjunction with Drumpf, and that’s why IQ45 has such a hold on the Party. Blackmail could explain quite a lot of the flip-flopping behavior we saw.

@85 madamab, Ivana was alone in the house, and police said there was no sign of forced entry. So there doesn’t appear to be anything nefarious about her death.

Only Trump and the three adult children have been subpeonaed. No indication that Ivana was as well. Not surprising the depositions have been delayed. The office of NY’s AG said they will happen at a date to be determined.

Roz in NJ/NYC

@95 You’re right, MB. I hadn’t thought about that. Sickening. And a lot of these sick MFs not only get off on little girls being raped, forcing her to give birth to the rapist’s spawn just heightens the experience. I’m going to be sick…

But yes, blackmail would make a lot of sense. Epstein was a master at that sort of thing. I believe that’s how he got his wealth and power. And he would not have been so successful without his right-hand gal, Maxwell.

A particularly hideous example of stupidity, arrogance, and women-as-livestock mentality.

Montana state Rep. Brad Tschida (R), a former Montana House majority leader who is running for the state Senate, wrote an email this week to more than 100 legislators citing a podcast featuring a woman who is an antiabortion advocate, according to the Daily Montanan.

“The womb is the only organ in a woman’s body that serves no specific purpose to her life or well-being,” Tschida wrote on Monday, according to MTN News, the first to report the news. “It is truly a sanctuary.”

The Republican told the Daily Montanan that the message he took away from the uterus exchange was comparable to a time he saw a doe fend off birds of prey from eating her dead fawn. “We’ve got a mother that’s a wild animal that’s trying to protect her offspring who’s already dead, but we don’t have the same concern generally speaking for unborn in humanity,” he said. “I thought that was a pretty interesting parallel or dynamic.”

Uh oh. WordPress didn’t like my response. I’ll try one more time.

I am really disgustedly at Biden’s fist-bump with killer MBS. He should have put his hand in his pocket or something else.

To me it was as if he ran behind MBS and planted a big sloppy kiss on his ass, and said, “I will put aside your demanding the death of Mr. Khashoggi’, for the sake of getting a little of what I want.”

I don’t know. I can’t get worked up about the pseudo-fellowship of a fist bump. Biden was there to get a bunch of Middle East anti-war and political stuff accomplished, and to spring loose as much oil as he could.

MBS is a murderer (of many more than Khashoggi) who keeps half the population in domestic animal status. The mistake isn’t fistbumping. It’s not having switched to renewables so that anybody has to suck up to the slimeweasel. But the not-switching has been going on for 40 years. It’s not all or even mostly Biden’s fault. He has to deal with the situation handed to him. If that involves fistbumping, well, revolting, but the whole thing is revolting. It doesn’t matter any more than the rest of the odious process. And it sounds like he was fairly successful. So who cares.

I was thinking that the DNC committee was supposed to decide on the Dem Presidential Primary calendar in mid-July and I’ve heard nothing. So I went in search of and found this C-Span DNC meeting held July 8. I don’t expect any of you to watch it. I watched the whole thing but did fast forward through Donna Brazile (PTSD). It was interesting. To me at least. I think they’ll end up keeping NH, NV, and SC. Iowa is the question. If they keep Iowa, I’m going to fucking lose it. Please alert the world.

The final decision is supposed to be in the first week of August.

Yeah, I agree with Quixote that the fist bump is a tempest in a teapot. I read that Biden was quite up front about saying to MBS that he believes the guy is responsible for Khashoggi’s murder. After the meeting, MBS did what Biden wanted. So whatever Biden did, it worked.

Thanks Roz – I am always suspicious about anything involving Drumpf so I reserve the right not to fully believe it was an accident. I appreciate the additional context though. ♥️

Luna, that is really disturbing. These religiously insane maniacs are ruining our country. The only plus side is that a lot of people who were more squishy/squeamish/uneducated on the topic are starting to realize how dreadful life can be for women and girls. I agree with what this woman said on Twitter.

PJ, thanks for sharing about the primary calendar. Yes, let’s kick Iowa to the curb. NH is white enough for two states!

She’s right – a lot of people didn’t realize how many children are being sexually abused or raped. Just like you were saying earlier, MB. It’s a terrible thing to think about.

We never would have heard about this 10 year old girl if Roe had not been overturned (for her privacy, we shouldn’t), but now people are going to have to deal with it. Hopefully. Those are horrific numbers. 1 in 4, 1 in 5.

Surprise! The Secret Service “found” the texts from 1/5 and 1/6!

@105 Magic! That’s really awesome – I want to see what’s on those.

Question: Is it still called “white flight” if it’s whites (upper class) running away from whites (lower class)?

“have-more flight”? “we-use-salad-forks flight”? whiter flight? The Flight of the More Twee?

You’re right. We need a term for it. 😆

They found the texts, oh hark.
Everyone get out your tiny violin or your little flute and play ‘Hail to the King of Secret Service Men’.

I hope there is more super magic in finding out if any have been deleted.

@108 Hahahaha, quixote! Great ideas! I think “whiter flight” is my fav.

Hilarious video, Shadow!

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