In the midst of World War III…
Posted March 13, 2022
on:- In: Open Thread | Ukraine | Women | Womens' Rights
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We are also celebrating (?) Women’s History Month. This is all too apropos, because women’s history is bursting at the seams with men wreaking havoc on us – and none worse than the evil monsters who start global wars, such as our not-so-dear Pooty-Poot.
There is a concept in activism called “Nothing About Us Without Us.” In other words, don’t make decisions about a marginalized group, such as folks with disabilities or Black people, without significant representation from that marginalized group. It strikes me that this concept has been largely absent from so much of the decision-making that has created the difficult conditions women live in today.
Its absence has been deeply felt. For example, how many women agreed when the Texas legislature effectively overturned Roe v. Wade in that state? How many agreed when the Supreme Court refused to put a stop to it? (The Supreme Court consults the Constitution, which is a woman-free document, thanks to the QOP men who refuse to pass the ERA – without getting agreement from women.) How many women agree to allow trans women to enter their safe spaces? How many women agreed that Putin should wage war on Ukraine?
I want to be clear that women in power are NOT the women who would need to agree to all of these actions that impact us; those women are far too likely to echo the men, as they benefit from the patriarchy almost as much. It is the marginalized and disenfranchised who need to be brought into the conversation. Joe Biden is a great example of how to do this right. He knows his base is Black women, and true to his promises, he has set about elevating Black women to positions of power they have never had before. Under his leadership, we now have a Black woman Vice President, and will soon have a Black woman Supreme Court Justice; he’s also appointed more Black women to appeals courts than any other President already. Way to go, Joe!
To me, “Nothing about us without us” seems to cut through the convenient excuses white male supremacy throws up when they make policies that hurt us. I’m going to keep it front of mind as I talk about women’s rights going forward.
Open thread, as always.
104 Responses to "In the midst of World War III…"

The first time I found a woman in politics that I instantly respected and admired, was our Hillary. It was when Bill was President and he showed how brilliant he was when he had Hillary work in the White House on Universal Health Care.
That was when I saw a woman stand up to more than 1/2 of American citizens that tried to destroy her and she didn’t shut up and sit down for anyone. From that time on, all I could think about was was when would she become our President.
Since then, I have seen very few women in America that has stood up more for everyone, including women. One other leader like Hillary has been RBG and few others in my book. I used to see a confident and aggressive Kamala when she was CA’s AG. Now she has been quieted and constricted in comparison, IMO. I believe the same would have happened to any woman that Biden would choose.
There will always be ‘reasons’ a woman should stand back and not outshine a man, a male President, a boss at work, many redneck husbands…etc.
Until women become more outspoken, more supportive of most women and never give up…things will never be equal.


BTW MB, thanks for the great thread.


MB, I agree that the media has been negative on Kamala and also on Joe too. Seems they only liked Obama then Dump.
Like everything else, women have to outsmart, outwit and excel in every way to get though the haters.


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So cute and where’s his helmet and Kevlar?


MB@30
Me too, Hillary punches back with fearless humor.


“This war is so pointless and tragic and horrific, but at least that is a small consolation.”
I’ll take it. Putin himself is radioactive toxic nuclear waste. The sooner he is contained, the better. The Ukrainians are having to crawl through a river of shit, but I do believe they will come out clean on the other side (The Shawshank Redemption).


I think it has to be Poland who makes the first move in helping Ukraine with their air defense. Because… 1) It can’t be the U.S. 2) They are the ones being deluged by refugees. We all love our friends and relatives, but no one wants them to move in. 3) For history reasons. Poland got completely used and abused in committing the worst atrocities of WWII (Auschwitz, Treblinka) and here’s their chance to be a hero pre-WWIII (or at least be a significant factor). 4) It would be insulting to Putin if it’s Poland that gives him the middle finger and not the U.S. who is seen by Putin as a worthy adversary. It is treating Russia as on par with Poland, not the U.S.
It’s a Putin trick. First give Ukraine the MiGs; when Putin doesn’t push back because the risks are too high, do more and more. It’s a risk to Ukraine (Putin can get worse as far as war crimes), but that’s what they’ve been asking for over and over and over. And Putin is probably going to get worse regardless. Ukraine needs air defense – and maybe air offense. It’s a risk they are willing to take. I don’t see how it’s a risk to Poland unless NATO is telling them, “absolutely not”.
My armchair analysis from nowhere, KS…


‘Birthing people’, he has a problem with real women and should keep his stupidity to himself. Self castration does not equal being a woman.


50-51 Luna
Personally, I don’t think these people are special and I don’t need them to try and tell me what a woman is or how they should be accepted as one.
And also, why some people want to be called ‘they’ is a crazy concept to me…I refuse to participate in this upside down world and avoid the entire situation. (I don’t talk to people about this, just avoid saying it.)
And the born-with-penises men playing as a ‘woman’ in sports is wrong and ridiculous to womankind.
Life is short and difficult enough as it is, dealing with this bs from these men is beyond tolerable.


I remember back in my earlier days seeing cartoons (maybe even actual pictures?) of Soviet Union female athletes looking like men because they were given male hormones. Never in a million years did I think of those women as actually having penises…


“Looking forward to hearing your impressions of Kasparov, mb!” Me too!
People here seem to be in a state of confused limbo over the war in Ukraine. They are on board with might makes right, the means justifies the ends, you gotta break a few eggs (cage a few kids) to make an omelet, etc. A Christo-fascist way of thinking. But might always “wins”, right? Hitler was only defeated by a bigger might. Trump didn’t really lose. But now… Putin seems to be losing??? Against Ukraine??? WTH does that mean for them and their dreams of a Christian Theo/Autocracy? It really has shaken their confidence. I think they’re afraid of the domino effect if Putin goes down.


the means justify the ends…
“But makes them a bit of a fifth column, doesn’t it :grimace:” It certainly does, quixote.


I can’t take the Republican questions of Ketanji Brown Jackson. Dear God. Lord have mercy. I’m embarrassed for them. Shamelessness really is their superpower. Judge Jackson’s patience and calm is *her* superpower (along with being an intellectual giant to little morons). Job has nothing on her. But dear god.


Talking about BA.2…(Omicron.2)
Fourth doses coming for seniors?
One thing Abu-Raddad’s research can’t reveal is how well immunity holds up for older people. Qatar is a young country. Less than 10% of the population are over the age of 50, he says, so they couldn’t tell if the vaccines continued to work as well for seniors as they did for younger people.
Del Rio suspects that the vaccine efficacy in seniors wanes farther and faster than it does for younger people.
“I predict the CDC in the next week or two is going to recommend a fourth dose for people over 65. If you’re 65, and you get infected, you could still have very severe disease despite being vaccinated,” he said.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/22/health/ba-2-wave-us-other-countries/index.html


This is a small thing in the grand scheme of important things right now, but this is important to me. Fuck Iowa. Fuck caucuses. Even KS(!) did away with caucuses in 2020. The result? Bernie got his ass kicked in a primary here in 2020 (Biden 77%, Bernie 23%) instead of winning handily in the 2016 caucuses (Bernie 68%, Hillary 32%). In 2016, about 39,000 people participated. In 2020, 143,000 participated (which was also helped by having all mail-in voting due to Covid). Bernie’s raw vote total actually went up by about 6,000 from 2016 to 2020.
In caucuses, the biggest bullies win (as we all know from 2008). PLEASE, Democrats. DO. IT.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/22/politics/dnc-plan-primary-calendar-change/index.html


“I think she just doesn’t want to get piled on by Their Wokenesses.” I agree, socal. “Their Wokenesses” That’s funny! 🙂 I also appreciate being educated on the trans issue here. I don’t appreciate being educated by RWNJs on the issue. Like they give a shit about women.
I’ve seen a few clips of today’s hearing and it looks like they’ve gone down a different rabbit hole. I don’t know why Republicans didn’t just have QAnon himself question Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson as he is the expert on child pornography/child sex trafficking. He could have been zoomed in, in the shadows, with his voice altered. The Republican base would have loved it. Lindsey hysterics just isn’t quite the same.


I just saw a clip of Cory Booker. Wow. I needed that. I’m not going to let them steal my joy either.


Absolutely, they looked happy. It had a completely different feel – a completely different dynamic at work. Biden is not only *not* a dangerous, untrustworthy buffoon, he has proven himself to be a true leader of the free world like America should be. I think he’s the one responsible for making NATO “great again” (and it’s not easy for me to compliment Biden, poor fella). Sadly, I don’t think other democracies should trust the U.S. more than 4 years at a time. I don’t. We have way too many dumb-billies and a corrupt major political party willing to do anything for power. If they get back into power, all bets are off again. But I’m really grateful for now. And so are they!


Our Hillary has Covid 😦 I hope she feels better soon. ❤
She posted on twitter…
"Well, I've tested positive for COVID. I've got some mild cold symptoms but am feeling fine. I'm more grateful than ever for the protection vaccines can provide against serious illness. Please get vaccinated and boosted if you haven't already!"


Have a safe ride home, MB. The weather here is beautiful.


Thank you for reporting, MB! I hope you had safe travels. From the start, Putin’s war on Ukraine has seemed stupid to me. Putin is a lot of things, but stupid hasn’t been one of them up until now (he’s not a genius, but he’s always been very calculating). I’ve heard a lot of possible reasons, but I still find it mindboggling.
On Clarence, well, hope springs eternal… It’s his wife who is making all the news. Yikesalmighty! Looney Tunes plus *Supreme* hubris equals SuperMAGA(t) Ginni Thomas. That woman is scary. A true believer.


So Bob Woodward breaks this huge story about Ginni Thomas and he is on Morning Joe talking about just how much of a dangerous, powerful, full-on QAnon lunatic she is (paraphrasing, obviously) who was desperately pushing to overthrow a free and fair presidential election. And then Bob goes off the cliff of bothsidesism. For real. And he couldn’t be persuaded off that cliff – although Joe and Gene tried. He missed the importance of his own damn story.


That’s perfect. Thank you for posting, MB! And thank you for saying it, Stephanie! (I really like her – she cuts right to the chase)

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March 13, 2022 at 5:51 pm
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