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Activist Monday: Connecting the Dots

Posted on: July 31, 2017

Good Monday, all. Today is the first day of the last few months of Donald Trump’s Presidency. After all, he’s brought in a general to be his Chief of Staff, same as Nixon, and the conservo-rats are deserting his sinking ship. As the spectacular failure of the Wealth Transfer Bill made clear, the Senate can defy the Rancid Cheeto without any real consequences…and, the Rancid Cheeto is going to be no help to their agenda whatsoever. What will happen now? I don’t know, but while we wait for the next giant flameout, I thought we could spend some time connecting the dots.

The ongoing fight between the Bernie and Hillary wings of the Party is not about re-living the primaries, despite what the Bernie Bots would say on Twitter. It’s about looking to the future and figuring out the way forward for the Democrats. It IS important to have both the message, and the messaging, correct, so people know they’re not just voting against something, but FOR a positive vision of America.

In order to make this happen, we have to make sure that all Americans understand the connection between a racist, sexist and xenophobic campaign, and a country going in the wrong direction. From the Bernie cultists, and unfortunately from some members of the DNC, we hear that we need to appeal to the white working-class male voter with a strong economic message. The problem with this is, that it’s no different from the Republican approach.

Yes, you heard me right.

Make America Great Again is a white-people-only slogan, based on bringing the Fake 50s back to the US – a decade of great prosperity and segregation. Coal jobs, union jobs, they would be coming back under him – and all those “bad hombres” who have been taking those jobs away would be sent back to Mexico. He added to his racist cred by announcing that Mexicans are rapists, outing himself as a sexual predator, and being endorsed by white supremacists and having Steve Bannon as his senior campaign adviser. White people claimed they didn’t care, because all of these “identity politics” didn’t matter. But “identity politics” were really what energized all those white people to come out and vote for him. Nothing else mattered so much as race to the Trump voter.

And what happened when Drumpf came into office? He started advocating for policies to do exactly what he promised. Mass deportations. Known racist Jeff Sessions at the helm of the Justice department. True to his misogynistic ways, pushes to defund Planned Parenthood. Trying to overturn the freedoms and rights Obama granted to LGBTQ. And all his promises about bringing coal jobs back? Yeah, not so much.

What would happen if Democrats really decided to chase the white male vote, and decried “identity politics” as unimportant?  What message are they sending to everyone who isn’t white and male, who, not so coincidentally, votes Democratic? With all of these white men jockeying to run for the Presidency, two of them in their 70s, I find it very hard to believe that they will prioritize any of the things that matter to me…just as Barack Obama, who ran on misogyny, didn’t prioritize gender equality.

What we project matters. What we say matters. And visuals, they matter. And I am personally so very, very tired and sick of hearing and seeing “f*ck you” from the Democratic Party, a Party still, shamefully, disproportionately white and male. This is why Bernie Sanders held absolutely no appeal to me. He and his followers routinely dismissed the things I cared about, and mansplained that we were all too dumb to understand #TheBernout’s greatness and vast superiority over HRC. And of course, if we protested, we were playing “identity politics.” Well, yes. We want an equal seat at the table, and we’re tired of asking nicely.

So the Resistance you’re counting on to save your sorry butts and stop the evil Republican agenda, and vote for you in 2018? We’re women. And you won’t ignore us any more.

We’re awake now, and we’re paying attention.

This is an open thread.



95 Responses to "Activist Monday: Connecting the Dots"

Excellent post. Agree 100% with one addition. “We’re women AND men who adamantly support women and the issues vitally important to them.”

You said something so true about Bernie Sanders — he just holds no interest whatsoever for me either. There’s nothing, not a jot or tittle, that interests me about the man. He’s nothing but a hollow message stuck on repeat. Outside of that, he’s got nothing. I also don’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

Someone needs to have the courage to speak up and start saying, “Putin might have been helping Trump hurt Hillary, but Sanders did it from a personal choice.”

@1 and Stein did it out of spite

I’m ready for Hillary 2020. Her slogan “Reclaiming my TIme”


@3, Perfect slogan! Perfect!

Way behind on the posts…working too much.

This made me bust out laughing…

Trump ousts Scaramucci as communications director

One week at his new job and he is fired. Kelly wanted it…


Premature evacuation…pucker-up Mooch and brace yourself…you’ve been Kellyized. Shortest 15 minutes EVAH…

@ 3 and @5: I’m with her, her and of course HER!

@1: Prolix, that goes without saying. All the men who post here get it, that’s one of the many reasons I come to Widdershins. Ultimately it is about human rights in the widest possible context. To me that was Hillary’s strongest message. It’s not all about white heterosexual males any more; we all want a seat at the table and no one should be harmed or disadvantaged to get there.

@9, agree. I know a fair number of men who liked Hillary because of her policies and because she got stuff done. Although (sigh) here in the NW there are too many techie manboys who know what they now and Sanders’ cry for gratification right now! Solutions without work or details! hits their weak spots.

Scaramucci out — what, was his profanity to much for the POTUS*? Hard to believe.

Hmmm, and how long before TRump tires of generals being generals?

Re: scarface: and I doubt the wife rethinks the divorce.

In a waiting situation on news from Ohio.


Great top post. The day that politicians stop courting the white men of America, is when we may actually elect the best candidates.

I say ‘Eff you’ to all the Bernie supporters that only want token women to run. Token women that scream and yell, but haven’t the intelligence nor experience that Hillary has.

Bernie supporters that didn’t like the female part of Hillary, led to the creep that is occupying our WhiteHouse.

Excellent post MB! I keep seeing people encouraging Joe Biden to run at age 80! One article suggested we support him even if we don’t like him?!? No more old white men. Period. They’ve had their day, and done a lot of damage in the process. I hope the Democratic Party can get their act together soon. Bernie and Perez are really fucking things up.

Contrask @ 2, I really believe she’s an agent for Putin now.

And this:

Contrask @3, omg, I LOVE that! You should tweet it!

So sorry MB, I just noticed You wrote the top post. Excellent!!

That’s sad about Sam Shepard. I didn’t know he has ALS, poor man. Joni Mitchell’s song “Coyote” is supposed to be about him.

3 contrask

I’m ready for Hillary 2020. Her slogan “Reclaiming my TIme”
I’m with you, contrask!

I’m liking this guy more and more:

Fredster @ 12, No, I can’t imagine she would take him back after that. Mooch is an utter fool to throw away his family like that. Dump destroys everything he touches.

@9 & 10, I’m not taking issue with anything either of you say and totally agree it is about human rights in the widest possible context, but let me give you a little different rationale.

Saying it is about human rights is a philosophical truism, but that doesn’t touch people in the same way that this fact does: Women are just plain better at running government. Period, full stop.

I’ve seen it up close. I’ve been in the room and watched it. Women are better at budgeting. Women are better at prioritizing. Women are better at the intricacies of policies. Women are better at understanding people and their problems. Women nurture. Women don’t break things. Women fix stuff.

So, here’s my take and it is very practical and I wish to holy hell Democrats would start explaining it like this — women are just better at running government. So women’s rights are not just the “right thing to do, it’s the smart thing to do.” I’ve seen it.

Honestly, if women ran the government do you think we would be nibbling around the edges of 50 million people still not having health insurance? If women ran government, this American embarrassment would be fixed.

I now return you to your regular programming.

The hits keep rolling on:

@23, oh, that point isn’t going to go over well with a certain crowd!

Hmmm, I wonder if it’s nurture or nature. Women are socialized from an early age to be helpful, to care about others’ feelings, to not compete or be daring unless in defense of their families, do the shopping having kept aware of what the household needs and is going to need in the future, to support others and to put babies and families before themselves. Not all of that is good. Women can be indoctrinated with over-cautious, timid, self-subjegating personalities (who follow hubby’s direction and vote for Trump). Then women have historically been selected as mates for their ability to run households and be good, dutiful wives and mothers.

But it’ll be centuries before the majority of boys are raised to emotionally support and consider others in the greater scheme of things and to plan for the long haul.

Gee, another private contractor ripping off America. How’s that “private industry can do it better” working out?

Former staffer with U.S. contractor pleads guilty in State Department scam

A former employee of the major contracting firm DynCorp International admitted Monday that while working in Iraq, he helped cheat the State Department out of millions of dollars.

Prolix @23. What you say is true now. I doubt it’s based on XX chromosomes though. My bet is on socialization.

And that would actually be a really hopeful message because it means that if we got our act together and did a better job socializing boys, we could all be pulling together.


@25 & 27, don’t disagree, but when you say socialization that means a difference in the way brains are wired. In positive psychology that hard-wiring during development is called “talents” which are innate behavioral patterns culminating in natural strengths.

If we want to get really Roddenberry “meta” with the whole thing, who’s to say that socialization isn’t an evolutionary process and as such, women are more “evolved.” I know it might not scientifically “check out,” but I like to be optimistic.

One last thing, the young men I have mentored seemed to be much more evolved and positively socialized than I was at a comparable age. It might be the young men in which I’ve chosen to invest or the fact I was a crappy kid, but I am heartened by the young men I’ve mentored. None of them were BernieBots, but many of them have been techies. Just an anecdotal piece of data, but again optimism is a weakness of mine.

Sounds like we’ll never know for certain if this or previous elections were hacked.

Election officials and voting machine manufacturers insist that the rites of American democracy are safe from hackers. But people like Carten Schurman need just a few minutes to raise doubts about that claim.

Schurman, a professor of computer science at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, used a laptop’s Wi-Fi connection Friday to gain access to the type of voting machine that Fairfax County, Virginia, used until just two years ago.
“One thing that’s been very unfortunate in the way a lot of election officials have talked about the breaches is saying the phrase we have no evidence that X, Y, or Z happened,” Braun added. “However, the real answer is they have no idea what happened, or [way] of knowing. I’m not suggesting votes were switched or voters were deleted from voter files, but the point is the security is so lax and so bad that they have no way of going back and doing the forensics and saying one way or the other.”
“Nobody’s done a really thorough examination,” Simons said. “Even where there are paper ballots, most ballots haven’t been checked to see if there was any hacking or intrusion, so even if security people didn’t see any outside hacking occurring on Election Day, things could have been attacked earlier.”

Just to be marching out of step here, I can’t agree with the point about no old white men, either. The point isn’t what group somebody belongs to. The point is having the best candidate.

I know, I know. That’s always used as an excuse for fronting some old white man. Just for the moment I’m talking about the world where some old white man might really be the best candidate.

I think we want to be very careful about falling into a similar mindset to the people who are the problem. Bernie, for instance, wasn’t worse than useless because he was an old white man. He was, by far, not the best candidate. The real point is merit, not group. I think it’s really important to always keep that front and center, even when we’re talking about our own group.

There’s bunches of old white men who really are quite good. Ed Markey, Al Franken, Jerry Brown.

All that said, I’d be much happier and more involved, given our current world, if the Dems ran all kinds of people for all kinds of offices who were not white men. Inconsistent? Probably.

As Prolix says, back to our regular programming :D.

@29, actually I do agree.

…who’s to say that socialization isn’t an evolutionary process and as such, women are more “evolved.”

Look at the domestic dog — descended from wolves or ancestral near-relatives of wolves, but selected in successive generations for traits of friendliness and loyalty to humans.

Just a short period of childhood socialization can make a certain difference. My husband acts like its his job to take out the garbage, (probably because the men and boys did that in his family) whereas my mother always took out the garbage, so I can do it too. Though I must admit I’m usually more apt to do something else instead. OTOH he was used to helping to clear the table after dinner. The first time he did that at a dinner with my father and RWNJ brother-in-law, they just about fell out of their chairs.

In some cultures it’s traditional that the women spin and the men weave, and in other cultures it’s reversed, or both will do either activity.

However, it’s easier to socialize for discrete behaviors than it is to socialize for a gestalt of thinking about and planning for the good of the collective and all that entails.

@31, agreed. Also I dislike the disdain for “old white men” because it’s ageist. Hey, some of us get wiser as we get older. Our society has so much ageism, especially against women.

But wait a minute — Al Franken is “old?” That makes me think you are in your 20s, quixote!

@31: We older white men (well some of us) thank you.

@31, brava — what do you say if I nominate you for Chairperson of the Democratic Party?

@32, I find that whole area of study fascinating. I wish I knew more about it, but I’ve come to the point of understanding there are just too many things for me to learn everything I want to learn before my time is finished.

@33 & 34, no one will ever be able to convince me I’m a day over 18 — EVAH.

This is going to seem like a joke and I don’t mean it as a joke at all. I would not joke about something like this. I hope, sincerely hope, there is someone in Scaramucci’s life who is close enough to keep an eye on him during the next week or so. This experience of soaring in hierarchical esteem to utter humiliation in a matter of days is life-threatening for him. This dancing on his grave is likely to end in an intervention if he’s lucky and far worse if he isn’t. I hope there is someone left in his life who can intervene.

NWLuna, I have a rather severe case of arrested development. If you woke me up in 2AM and asked me how old I was, you might well get an answer like 25. On some days, 12….

Re brain wiring, it changes throughout life depending on everything (genetics, chemicals, usage) as NWLuna and you (prolix) both mention too. That’s one of the reasons I’m always rolling my eyes so hard at the popular press when they scream about some kind of neurological sex differences on brain scans. The studies are almost invariably bogus to begin with, but even when they aren’t, all you’re looking at is the endpoint of everything that’s happened to that person so far. Tad circular to treat the sexes differently, find different brain scans, and then say, “See? They’re different!”

I love that Rancid has a fly swatter. That’s the best.


@40: I have to say the entire “fly” thing reminded me of that episode of Breaking Bad.

Oh, now this is cold.

Anthony Scaramucci erroneously listed as dead in the new Harvard Law alumni directory

It’s unclear whether he was the victim of a prank — or just a typo. Harvard Law didn’t say, but the school was apparently crimson-faced over the flub. “Regrettably, there is an error in the Harvard Law School alumni directory in the listing for Anthony Scaramucci,” a spokeswoman told us in an emailed statement. “We offer our sincere apologies to Mr. Scaramucci. The error will be corrected in subsequent editions.”

Well, well, who woulda thunk it?

Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

On the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Germany last month, President Trump’s advisers discussed how to respond to a new revelation that Trump’s oldest son had met with a Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign — a disclosure the advisers knew carried political and potentially legal peril.

The strategy, the advisers agreed, should be for Donald Trump Jr. to release a statement to get ahead of the story. They wanted to be truthful, so their account couldn’t be repudiated later if the full details emerged.

But within hours, at the president’s direction, the plan changed.

Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said that he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared an article, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.” The claims were later shown to be misleading.

The extent of the president’s personal intervention in his son’s response, the details of which have not previously been reported, adds to a series of actions that Trump has taken that some advisers fear could place him and some members of his inner circle in legal jeopardy.

With Scaramucci being fired before his actual start means technically he is the first federal employee ever to serve negative time. Another way to look at it, Scaramucci’s tenure is unprecedented, he served 10 lifetimes of a mayfly.

You guys are really smart. I have truly enjoyed the discussions about brain chemistry, ageism and men who support women’s rights.

I have many, many faults…one of them is a tendency towards stating my opinions in absolutes.

That being said, I do not think an old white man should be the Presidential candidate in 2020. If somehow there were an incredibly vigorous and viable and amazing candidate who happened to be an old white man, I would support him. But I would not be convinced that, in our country of hundreds of millions of people, he would be the best choice, when there are people like Kamala Harris and Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand out there.

I promise you, I have nothing against old white men in general. I happen to be married to a man 15 years my senior, and I am no spring chicken. 😀

PS That Hillary 2020 slogan @3 was the best!!!

I agree on Hillary’s 2020 slogan! I wonder if Chris Cuomo will know what her slogan is by 2023.

Prolix made an interesting observation about Scaramucci and how quickly he plummeted, and who knows how he would respond. It’s a big fall, very quickly.

And wow, the WaPo revelation that Trump personally dictated that story. That’s big. We’re gonna need a bigger boat.

A very interesting article on the alt-left and alt-right.

@50, winner!

Karma gets to sleep in tomorrow. Working overtime.


@32, Re selection for traits — there are a number of similar examples in the evolution of domesticated animals. Farmers generally choose animals with the traits they value most — not just for purely physical traits as plusher wool coats, but also for “softer” traits such as docility or sociability. They’ll breed from the animals manifesting the desired traits, and not breed from the rest of the herd.

@39, Definitely. I recall a study which “showed” that women having a thicker corpus callosum (part of the brain which connects right and left hemispheres) than did men — based on an n of 12! You can’t generalize from that small of a study; it’s laughable.

There are many individual differences on brain scans. (I’m not a radiologist, but I do look at brain MRIs in my patients and can pick out some generalist stuff.) A lot is nurture or life experiences. Many taxi drivers in London have a larger area for the part of the brain involved in spatial relations, i.e., map-reading. There are similar examples found in brain scans for people who specialize in other disciplines.

Great post Madamab! (And great conversations in the comments)

To me, the problem with ‘old white man’ is not the age part. It’s the white male privilege part and the older they are, the more it’s been to their advantage.


the problem with ‘old white man’ is not the age part. It’s the white male privilege part and the older they are, the more it’s been to their advantage.


This is genius.


A remarkable story about a prankster who tricked a bunch of White House people with bogus e-mails.

I agree, madamab. In this place, in this time, with the potential candidates we have, no question that the Dems should nominate one of the several excellent women.

On brain scans, my favorite example of a truly inherited wiring pattern is the way humans are wired for language right from the start. But even that doesn’t push them toward any specific language or grammar.

has been let go from One America News Network

Never knew there was such a thing.

@46: when there are people like Kamala Harris and Cory Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand out there.

Nope and nope on the first two. And the reason is: let them get some D.C. experience first.

Words of wisdom from Charles Pierce:

…and that’s the well-known ability of the Democratic Party to stare down the gullet of any gift horse that comes its way.

The only way this bizarre Republican strategy works is if the Democratic Party continues its futile pursuit of people who haven’t been reliable Democratic voters since 1979. This pursuit undoubtedly will be enabled by elements of the elite political media who have spent weeks on archaeological digs in Ohio and West Virginia, ferreting out the obviously arcane reasons why people hate the healthcare they have because “The Black Guy” got it for them. The only way for the Democrats to weaponize properly the fact that we are now being governed by a claque of dimwitted saloon bouncers is for the party not to be overly concerned about insulting the people who put the claque of dimwitted saloon bouncers into office.

I don’t think of Al Franken as “old” either. I guess I go by generations. I don’t think of baby boomers as “old” yet. I think of them as middle-aged or retirement age. I think of the generation prior to boomers as “old” or getting there; mind you, I think its great if they want to work, but I think being President would be too much. For instance, Hillary and Al Franken are baby boomers and I don’t think either one would be too old to be prez. On the other hand, Joe Biden is not a baby boomer and will be (I think) 79 in Jan 2021. I think that’s too old for most men, and definitely for Biden who seems senile now. Jerry Brown seems sharp as a tack at age 79, but I don’t think that’s common.

I thought Raygun was too old when he ran the first time and took a lot of flack for it, but I think history proved me right.

Anyway, I think there will be several wonderful candidates that the Democratic Party could field in 2010 that aren’t 80 or pushing 80, aren’t Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden. A lot can happen in 3 years. Agree with Fredster that I would rather see Kamala & Corey get more experience under their belt, but I like them both.

oops, meant to say “. . .could field in 2020:

GAgal @54, well said about the white man privilege thing being more ingrained in older men.

@63: And the reason I said that annie was because we saw how well that worked out when another “greenhorn” got the job, not really knowing or wanting to know how the place-DC actually works.

I agree about Kamala Harris not running in 2020 but for a different reason. She would be a fabulous Attorney General. I hope the right candidate will come along before 2020, but remember what’s important is how you stack your cabinet. (Just look at Trump’s) Each of these up and rising ‘stars’ have talents and skills that can be used to our best advantage. Too bad we never got the chance to see Hillary’s choices.

Good points, both of you!

@62 – Yes! That is exactly my point. If we mobilize Democrats in the Rust Belt with a rising star who runs as a Democrat, we will have no issues with the Electoral College. We shouldn’t play to the worst instincts of the deplorables.

That is a great point on the Cabinet AND Kamala being a great AG.

Optically, the Democratic Party

This is really important to understand. This is the Rethug argument against Obamacare — “bare” counties or counties that have no available policies on the exchange. Well, the facts are these: (1) Nationwide there are 19 counties that have no insurers; and (2) About 12K people live in those counties. So, the Rethug rationale for abandoning the ACA and leaving 32 million people vulnerable without coverage is that 12K people are without coverage in 19 counties primarily in NV where 75% of the state is owned by the federal government.

This is exhibit one in just how intellectually bankrupt the Rethugs are.



Yes! I hope FOX News gets exposed big time for that. Of course, that “liberal” NPR is the reporter, so the rank & file won’t believe the fake news.

About Kamala – I agree 2020 isn’t the time for her. And also, she would be a fabulous AG. I haven’t settled on potential candidates.

We have to end another Bernie run, though, that is a must.

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43 NW Luna

Well, well, who woulda thunk it?
Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

Well, that’s not a breadcrumb for Muller, it’s the whole loaf.

I am not ready to think of anyone else but Hillary as our President. Not even close…

…but someone that I think has the experience, smarts and disposition is Diane Feinstein, Hillary’s friend.

Jerry Brown is looking good as far as older white guys go, he is doing a great job in CA IMO, his experience in problem solving big issues is a great value. My only fear is that he is not center enough on national defense…but I’m not sure about that since he hasn’t been tested yet.

Fun article on how Trump is even a David Mammet character.

He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show. He presents himself as a confident ladies’ man but is so insecure that he invented an imaginary friend to lie to the New York press about his love life and is now married to a woman who is open and blasé about the fact that she married him for his money.

@74: I am not ready to think of anyone else but Hillary as our President. Not even close…

Good luck with that.

Dianne Feinstein is 84 years old. (doesn’t look it!) I don’t think she would be interested in running for POTUS.

About those failing tRump casinos, Hillary was obviously right. How do you manage to lose money owning a casino? Except that one footnote I saw pointed out that casinos are a great way to launder money, and that shows up on the books as a loss.

So the likeliest explanation for all his money-losing casinos is they were simply washing machines for money. Which also explains why he can’t defend himself on the subject. Saying “Shaddup. I got my cut.” wouldn’t fly on the evening news.

Quixote @78, LOL! Good point!

Contrask @ 72, excellent! Thanks for posting that!

@75, ooh, wicked article! He nails dump.

Oh hell, I didn’t realize that “moment” would be that long.


@84 Well Trump is welcome to resign and go back to his Pent House. Tomorrow would be fine.

The latest addition to the Mueller team.

Most recently a white-collar criminal defense lawyer with New York law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell, Andres, 50, served at the Justice Department from 2010 to 2012. He was deputy assistant attorney general in the criminal division, where he oversaw the fraud unit and managed the program that targeted illegal foreign bribery.

Think Trump and peeps are catching on now?

@85: That was my thought also.

@85 and @88, I disagree. He should go NOW.

@82, “Deval Prez, Hillary Clinton VP” sez one idiot commenter. Grrrrrrr.

Luna, Ditto your Grrrrrrr and add one Snarl.

@90 & 91: I think there will be a large number of trial balloons launched and many will crash and burn. I don’t see this one gaining much altitude.

Have y’all seen this ad from a woman in Kentucky running for Congress?

@93: I saw that and thought it was dynamite.

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