The Widdershins

Activist Monday: I Don’t Think We’re Giving Him a Chance Any More

Posted on: January 16, 2017

Good Monday, Widdershins. It’s just a few days before the worst mistake Americans ever made begins to dirty the air in the Oval Office with his toxic emissions. But all is not lost. In America, and all over the world, the fight against the Mango Meerkat has begun. And you know what I haven’t heard in a while? “We don’t know what he’s going to do! Give him a chance?” I can’t say I’ve missed that bullsh*t.

One way people are fighting back is the Women’s March. Despite its marketing as “pro-woman, not anti-Trump,” I think we all know what’s up. Clearly there will be few Trumpsters in attendance, unless they’re in it to stand outside and yell at us about what “Losers!” we are and how “SAD!” it is that we won’t accept the Siberian Candidate as a legitimate President. I remember when I marched against the Iraq War in 2003; there were over 250,000 people on the streets of New York, and about 10 morons with signs protesting the protest. I’m guessing this will be a similar percentage.

Here’s some rather surprising news: There are three times as many buses going to the protest, as there are going to the inauguration! This has got to be another “unprecedented” moment we can live without. I had to laugh at this quote from our PEEOTUS:

Trump told The New York Times last week he expects “unbelievable, perhaps record-setting turnout for the inauguration.”

Hmm, lowest turnout ever? That would be both unbelievable and record-setting, wouldn’t it?

Then we have the resistance led by politicians. Allegedly our outgoing Post-Partisan POTUS, Barack Obama, is going to be doing something or other. I can’t say I’ve got a huge amount of faith, but maybe he’s learned something from his epic failure to make the argument for Democratic vs. Republican policies. Unfortunately, Michelle Obama, who blew me away during the campaign with her impassioned defense of Hillary and her speeches on behalf of women, has said she will absolutely not be running for office. Damn, I would vote for her! Even if her lesser half doesn’t follow through with his promises, though, there are plenty of other people who are stepping up.

Some of the president’s allies are also preparing for major roles in defending Obama’s legacy. The president’s close friend and former Attorney General Eric Holder is now representing the State of California as an attorney, looking to defend that state’s liberal, Obama-style policies if they come into conflict with Trump’s goals.

A group of elected officials in blue states, including former Obama chief of staff and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, have promised to oppose Trump if he seeks the mass deportation of undocumented people that he proposed during his campaign. And young Democrats who worked as field organizers on Obama’s campaigns and lower-level aides in the White House are now exploring their own campaigns for state legislatures and other local offices.

And yes, some people do seem to realize that Obama was largely at fault for the evisceration of the Democratic Party during his tenure.

The Democrats’ huge losses in terms of state legislative, gubernatorial and congressional seats during Obama’s eight years in office may reduce his credibility in telling party leaders what to do in the future.

I sure hope so. He doesn’t seem to know how to elect anyone other than himself, and his victory lap during Hillary’s campaign also seemed to be an epic fail.

One thing that has been very interesting over the weekend is the escalating feud between Congressman John Lewis and Der Trumperer. After Representative Lewis said what we were all thinking – that Drumpf is not a legitimate President – The Donald’s baby hands went right to his phone and tweeted out that Lewis is “all talk, no action.” Can you imagine saying this right before MLK Day?! The Twitterverse has exploded. I understand that a boycott of the inauguration has begun…let’s hope the Democrats keep it up.

Some other things going on are:

We have taken ten steps back from Martin Luther King, Jr.’s idealistic vision that Americans can be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. Although things are really, really terrible right now, I think it’s becoming clear that Trump is not going to be able to push people around the way he has done as the CEO of his own company. Maybe our long national nightmare won’t be that long after all? And maybe the people we should give a chance to, are our fellow Americans. May we keep each other company and stand as lights against the Dark Times ahead.

This is an open thread.

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149 Responses to "Activist Monday: I Don’t Think We’re Giving Him a Chance Any More"

So Joss Whedon is in trouble. He Tweeted: “Violence solves nothing. I want a rhino to fuck @SpeakerRyan to death with its horn because it’s FUNNY, not because he’s a #GOPmurderbro” and Right-wingers are going bonkers. I don’t know what the problem is though. Maybe if he’d said “fucked to death with a gun” it would have been ok?

Also the B-Street Band – cover band of Springsteen and E-Street Band that was scheduled to perform at the inauguration – has pulled out, out of respect for Springsteen and E-Street.

@2, I read someplace that Bruce asked them to pull out, that he didn’t want his songs performed at that event and they agreed.

Thank you Bruce!

Why even have an inauguration at this point?

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MB, thanks for your optimistic Monday post! I’ve been trying to perk up in spite of the disaster we’re facing at the end of the week. Over the weekend we went to see the old funk/reggae/rock band “War” which was lots of fun (I’d forgotten how many hits they had), and now I’m packing for the NAMM Show in Anaheim. Laker & I are hoping there will be some kind of protest there we can jump into. The Nammians (my own made up word) always seem to be a liberal lot, so its possible.

I’m writing to all of my state reps, asking them to please start working on abolishing the electoral college. It would be great if CA & NY joined together in this endeavor; in fact, it would be even better if as many states as possible. I hope that somewhere there are lawyers working on strategies.

I hope the DC march is massive! And a great experience for everyone. MB, thank you for going!

@4, why indeed?

@5> OMG Prolix. Just wow.

MB, I’m really proud that you are going to the march. Be careful. All of those “Bikers for Trump,” or “Trikers,” or “Birumpers” will probably still be marauding the streets.

Can you imagine what a fiasco this Misinauguration is going to be? The committee is running pop-ups offering tickets on the internet. It might be a record attendance for an inauguration held in the 1830s.

NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is organizing a rally at Trump Tower on the 19th as well.

@5, that’s a really depressing thought, isn’t it? I’ve read that Gates acknowledges that no one needs the kind of money he has and he doesn’t plan to leave large inheritances to his kids, but he doesn’t want to pay more taxes, because he thinks he will spend the money better (to help people via his foundation) than the government. Maybe he’s right, but I do think that there’s a megalomanic element to the billionaires, like they think they’re all-wise, or Gandalf or something. Personally I wish they were taxed a whole lot more.

@10, that’s cool, and I hope its so successful that it continues on through the 20th!

@11, Gates’ father, who is rich but nothing like his son, has repeatedly come out in favor of higher taxes on higher incomes such as his own. Gates Sr. has been active state-wise in supporting actions for the public good, particularly in education and research.

And anybody who says “Give him a chance” should be smacked upside the head. Drumpf is what he says he is. Today even Obama said it. This is who was elected, this is who he is and has been all along. People who keep hoping he’ll moderate his views and statements… No. Today Europeans are all “Well, hopefully he’s not serious.” He is serious. Stop thinking otherwise and plan accordingly!

@6, are you thinking of the National Popular Vote bill? Your state and mine are among those who’ve already passed it:

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

The bill has been enacted by 11 jurisdictions possessing 165 electoral votes—61% of the 270 electoral votes necessary to activate it, including four small jurisdictions (RI, VT, HI, DC), three medium- size states (MD, MA, WA), and four big states (NJ, IL, NY, CA). The bill has passed a total of 33 legislative chambers in 22 states—most recently by a bipartisan 40–16 vote in the Arizona House, a 28–18 vote in the Oklahoma Senate, a 57–4 vote in New York Senate, and a 37–21 vote in Oregon House. ….

The National Popular Vote interstate compact would not take effect until enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes—that is, enough to elect a President (270 of 538). Under the compact, the national popular vote winner would be the candidate who received the most popular votes from all 50 states (and DC) on Election Day. When the Electoral College meets in mid-December, the national popular vote winner would receive all of the electoral votes of the enacting states.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

Great post Madamab and thanks for rounding up all the action going on againt Der Douche.

Can you imagine having to pay people to come to your inauguration?? If Hillary were being inaugurated, she’d have to plan to spill over into several different areas to contain all the people.

P.S. I doubt those bikers will be able to do much. There will be hundreds of thousands of protesters.

@13, yes, I know a lot about Gates philanthropy in WA, as all of my family have migrated up there since the 80s and all live in Whatcom Cty now. My brother is a contractor and has worked on a lot of mansions for the MS bigwigs on the islands and such, including Paul Allen, who has hired my bro multiple times. So that’s great, and I think these guys are better billionaires than the Koch creeps or some of the other slimy billionaire families. Still, I don’t think the billionaire boom is good for the country. There is only “x” amount of U.S. dollars. We can see the results of letting a handful of people have most of it: ravaged middle and working classes, massive debt, etc. It breaks my heart that Hillary doesn’t get to work on that. No one would have been better on the economy than her.

@17, LOL!

@18, exactly!

@15, it sounds like a good plan, whatever it takes to ensure that our votes count for as much as the citizens in the smaller states. I heard one of the rethugs (McTurtle maybe?) blathering on about dumps “mandate” because he won “more counties” and “more area” than Hillary!?! wtf does than even mean? Are dirt, rocks, mountains, lakes etc supposed to be counted as a voting entity? And the only mandate dump will ever have are the ones he has with putrid.

@22 He sounds like the desperate idiot he is. Oh, the Schadenfreude…..

@11, Annie, I agree with you that Bill and Melinda Gates are wonderful philanthropists, but I agree with you more on your other point of taxing the 1%ers. Here are my two fulcrums:

1. It is the epitome of white privilege, or rich privilege, or privilege privilege to believe that your value system, your ethics, your beliefs out weigh those set by a public process upon which other people weigh in their opinions, their beliefs, and their experiential data. What gives the rich the ability to say, “I’m withholding my taxes because I want to spend them on other things, and the public good to which my taxes would go, they can pound sand.”

2. This is the most difficult thing the Rethugs, a good number of independents, and virtually every single Tea Party/Trumpist, must recognize and accept. Health care costs money. Someone must pay for it. Those who have reaped the benefit of a runaway stock market, zero percent interest, and an economy for 30 years built by them and for them, MUST pay for it because that is where the money is. Why do bank robbers rob banks? That is where the money is. Why must the rich be taxed? That is where the money is.

@DYB — I read your Dunkin’ story from the other thread. Hillarious!

@11> I agree with Prolix at 24. It’s great that the Gates are using their money for good, but the Kochs also believe they are using their money for good instead of paying taxes on it.

@20, annie, I meant that Gates Sr. disagrees with Gates Jr. about the rich getting taxed. Gates Sr. thinks that rich people are exactly the ones who can can and should pay more in taxes for the benefit of the whole country.

I agree that relying on the wealthy to contribute is a dangerously bad idea, and most of them are selfish Rethug bastards anyway.

WaPo is reporting that Drumpf’s inauguration is going to be a “surprisingly low-key” affair. LOLOLOLOL That’s because nobody of significance wants to perform (3 Doors Down who?) and not enough deporables can afford to travel. Hahahahaha

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/surprisingly-trump-inauguration-shapes-up-as-relatively-low-key-affair/2017/01/16/dad118e0-d9ac-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html?utm_term=.558b99adf32f

Can’t find the nifty graphic I saw in a tweet, but here’s why the heartless Rethugs and the filthy rich want the ACA repealed.

The big winners in Republican plans to repeal Obamacare are likely to be the rich.

Rescinding the Affordable Care Act means not only taking away health coverage from some 20 million Americans. It also means scrapping two big tax increases Democrats imposed on the wealthy to help pay for it all.

Republicans are likely to ax those taxes on the earnings and investments of those making more than $250,000 — and not replace them — in what some predict will prove the biggest tax cut of next year. …

For those in the top 0.1 percent of incomes, repealing the investment tax alone would mean $154,000 in annual savings, according to the Tax Policy Center.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/obamacare-repeal-tax-cut-wealthy-232379

@D YB, it’s all because they’re trained with scripts to make customers buy more expensive items. They’re lost when someone doesn’t follow the script with them.

@27, oh I agree with you 100%. Gates dad rocks. I meant to say that in my earlier post but forgot! Sorry, hope you didn’t think I was disagreeing with you, my intention was to add on to your comment (and explain why I know a lot about WA).

@17: So I wonder what the going rate is for being paid to sit in a seat at the Inaugural?

@31, I think you need to come up here and visit your relatives! 🙂 (Although maybe you should wait until our 2 sunny months.)

@32, I’d insist on getting paid beforehand.

@28, love it.

@29, I saw that, it’s sickening.

@30, LOL! and it’s true!

@29: I had seen something elsewhere about that. I think those were big funding mechanisms for the ACA. Taking away those $$s will probably affect the subsidies given to folks who receive them for their ACA plans.

So MB, are you going to be wearing a hat?

https://www.pussyhatproject.com/

@35, Luna, as we say around here, “That’s the word with the bark on it.”

@34, yes, I usually go up in July or August.

@35, good point. Hubs & I have been seat fillers a few times (Kodak Theater, Dorothy Chandler Pavilion), but we didn’t get paid for it. If an event is being filmed and people with orchestra seats don’t show up, they send people up to the balcony and they choose people to move to those seats. Once, hubs was given free tix to a PBS event at the Kodak that was honoring Aretha, and we were very happy with our balcony seats, but they asked us to seat fill up front. So they put us in Denzel Washington’s seats in the front row (!) and I’m thinking “Cool! I’m sitting right in front of where Jon Stewart stood when he hosted the Oscars” Then the Washington’s showed up and we were moved a few rows back, but it turned out better because we were much closer to the Queen (yes, Aretha is the Queen) who sat on a dais in the middle of the front orch section. She looked in our direction once and I gave her a big dopey smile and waved and she smiled and waved back.

I know y’all get tired of me doing this, but let’s do a little thought experiment.

What would be happening if Hillary had won the electoral vote, Orange Foolius had won the popular vote by 3 million, it became known Merkel or the British or any foreign power had interceded to help Hillary, and Robby Mook had met with them prior to the election, what would we be talking four days before the inaugural?

Breitbart would have made a call for the Alt-right to hit the streets, Paul Ryan and Pubic-headed Chaffetz would have convened hearings, Comey and the Fibbers would have leaked liked they had a mega-UTI, and the National Guard would have had to go full-metal jacket to make sure the ceremony could take place.

@40, what did you have to do to be seat-fillers? That would be so cool.

@41> Oh yes. If the tables were reversed, there would not have been a peaceful transfer of power.

From DYB”s WaPo link:

One thing the Trump inaugural committee has done particularly well is raise money. The committee says it has brought in more than $90 million in private money for the festivities, far more than the $53 million that Obama raised in 2009 for his first inauguration.

Still, it’s unclear how the inaugural committee will spend all that it has taken in.

“With a pared-down inaugural, I don’t know what they could possibly use $90 million on,” said Steve Kerrigan, chief executive officer of Obama’s inaugural committee in 2013 and chief of staff of the committee in 2009.

Heh. Bet a good portion ends up in someone’s pocket/wallet/purse.

@38 – Uh, no. I think it sends the wrong message. (Insert understatement emoticon here)

@45: I agree with you on that.

@45, I’m of two minds on the concept myself. It may be too cutesy, also I detest pink, and detest the pink = women concept even more. OTOH at the grassroots level thousands and thousands of women (and some men) are knitting and crocheting hats to donate if they can’t go themselves, writing messages of support and encouragement to go with their work, meeting in groups, and organizing for demonstrations at local levels.

@45 & 46 Agree about the p***y hats. Equal pay, parental leave, abortion, etc are not about that. Those aren’t only women’s issues anyway. The hats are cute as they can be but they are defining issues based on a vajajay. No thanks. The only plus I can see is it will show a sense of solidarity. My sister is getting over strep throat but if she perks up, we hope to go the Atlanta March for Women.

@41, yes. What was that article recently that said “Buck up, Democrats, and start acting like Republicans,” meaning to get hard-nosed and take action?

I keep watching in horror, making my calls, and wondering why nobody with the power to act as part of “the checks and balances” is doing much. OK, they’re investigating the Russian mucking with the election, but no cry for putting the transition on hold to make sure we don’t allow a treasonous candidate to hold the highest office. Got a call the other day from the DCCC who wanted a donation “now that Trump’s in power.”

Me: “Wait a minute. Trump’s not in power yet. The Inauguration hasn’t happened yet. Are you saying you’re letting him have power earlier?”

DCCC person: “Uh. well,we’re calling to get support for the DCCC., and ….”

Me: “OK. Tell me what the DCCC is doing right now against Trump, especially in light of the Russian hacking.”

DCCC: “Uh, well, women’s health care rights are in danger, and the ACA, and we’re trying to get support so we can …..Uh, I’m just hired to call, we need contributions so we can ….”

Me: “I donate to individual campaigns of people who can tell me their action plans and who have a record of getting stuff done. Good-bye.”

Sigh

@49> I agree. The silence of the national top Democrats has been deafening. I’m ashamed.

Not just in trying to stop Drumpf’s inauguration (which probably can’t be done…. I mean, a lot has to happen to actually postpone the coronation), but trying to at least calm the very anxious supporters of the party. Not calm “let’s give him a chance” bullshit, but calm “We will do this together, this is how we are going to do it” sort of way. There’s just been nothing on the national level. Schumer? Pelosi? Bueller?

At the local level there’s been much more noise, at least. And our local Representative, Jerry Nadler, says he’s boycotting the inauguration.

Yes, I totally get the hat=solidarity thing. There are some beautiful t-shirts you can buy, but they will be covered up in the January cold. So, it’s good to have something visible that people can wear to self-identify as supporters.

OTOH, sexual predators like Drumpf see women as nothing more than their bodies and sex organs. I am certainly not going to try to “co-opt” that sexism and try to make it work for me. That is always a losing strategy, because it just propagates the frame and makes it more powerful. See: Obamacare. Everyone calls the ACA that name now. You think this is an accident?! The Rethugs used that frame to confuse and dupe their moronic supporters into hating the ACA, and the Democrats did NOTHING to fight back. Yeah, how’d that co-opting concept work out for ya????

And, Schumer has no excuse. He should join the boycott at the very least. At the best, he would file some kind of lawsuit to stop the inauguration. This is getting completely out of hand with the international community up in arms and China saying they must prepare for a head to head confrontation. Good f’ing Christ, he’s not POTUS yet!!

Picking up on my little thought experiment, I’ll tell you what the Rethugs would be doing.

They would have their paid henchmen, like Mat Staver, Kim Davis’ lawyer, or Khaleesi Conway’s husband sitting on the doorstep of the D.C. District Court and the NY District Court, ready to file lawsuits over the Emoluments Clause. They would have plaintiffs who would survive the challenge to their status. Then they would have other lawyers filing lawsuits about Roger StoneSucker and Rudy Voldemort.

They would have Trump’s idiot in-house lawyer named as a party to really mess with them. I’ve heard about the NY and California plans, but those are governmental suits. We need plain, old one-step above harassment lawsuits to cover these fools 9 ways to Sunday.

@49: That poor telemarketer (essentially what they were). But I understand what you’re saying. I said this before and I”ll add it this to it:

If I get any type of mailing from the DCCC whatever they are, it will go back with a statement saying first: No Sanders and second: WTF are you doing right now???

@53: You know what the Dems are doing? They’re in chaos and each and every one of them that thinks they have a chance in 2020 are doing their own thing.

@51> I hadn’t thought about Obamacare vs. ACA – and how Rethugs are calling it ACA now… But it’s true. Holy shit!

I hope the DC march is massive! And a great experience for everyone. MB, thank you for going!

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Good for you MB…please represent for all of us. 🙂

Two weeks, just getting over the darn flu and plan to go to the PROTEST march in San Francisco…as long as it isn’t a downpour of rain that day. And I will be wearing my Hillary gear on the 20th at work and on the 21st for the march.

Not calling it a protest against Trump really ticks me off, but I am lucky enough to live in Hillary country, CA.

I’m shocked and happy to see Dr. David Shulkin nominated by Trump to head the VA. WTH? Did an asteroid hit him and he was temporarily sane? Or he ran out of ideas and just picked the guy below the current Secretary of VA?

I’ve heard Shulkin talk at a medical conference, and he seems genuine. He talked about the specialty expertise the VA has, and how it’s hard to find that expertise in the private sector. He has a “let’s cut to what’s essential and forget the BS” approach I like, and is a practicing clinican (!) not an administrative-only man.

Shulkin took over the top VA health job in July 2015 and now oversees more than 300,000 employees of the Veterans Health Administration, the largest division of the VA, which has more than 1,200 health care facilities serving nearly 9 million veterans each year.

When he started, more than 460,000 veterans were waiting longer than a month for appointments. But the problem wasn’t the sheer number, Shulkin said. It was that there was no way to tell how many of them had urgent needs, such as for cardiac or cancer treatment. There were 33 different ways to classify appointment needs, and Shulkin quickly cut that to two: Routine or urgent.

“As soon as we did that, for the first time, we saw which patients in the VA needed to be seen first,” he told USA TODAY in an interview last November. There were 57,000 of them. So Shulkin ordered the agency’s first-ever national stand down. “We opened up every VA medical center across the country — people asked for exceptions, I said there aren’t exceptions — and we saw those 57,000 patients,” he said. ….

Former VA employee Ryan Honl, who received a settlement from the VA after suffering retaliation for blowing the whistle about problems at a VA in Wisconsin, said he is also hopeful. “Shulkin was the guy who gave me my commendation letter in my settlement,” he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/16/david-shulkin-exclusive-trump-veterans-affairs/96566618/

Heh, heh!

OT but I was reading recently about the election and how gun sales have dropped like a rock since Trump was elected. I thought it was kinda funny that the NRA had shot themselves in the foot backing Trump. (pun intended) But au contraire… While a record 2.3 million FBI background checks were done in October, when Hillary was expected to win, and a big slump in sales right after the election (also gun stocks took a dive) they’ve found a new demographic of first time owners now. Frightened minorities. Boy, the NRA has this down to a science. (from November)

Gun sales spiked the month leader up to the election, although that surge was likely fueled by Second Amendment-loving Americans fearing Democrat Hillary Clinton would win and make it harder to buy firearms. In October, federal officials processed more than 2.3 million background checks for firearms — up from 1.9 million in September and 1.8 million in August.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/minorities-buying-guns-donald-trump-election-article-1.2886437

@60> OMFG! Rethuglicans vote about 50 times to repeal ACA over the last 7 years – and these idiots vote for them. Now they finally have a chance to repeal it – and these idiots LOSE THEIR FREAKING MINDS! “What am I supposed to do?” the woman says. Well, lady, maybe you shouldn’t have voted for someone who has voted to repeal ACA 50 times!

Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Well, that was the wrong paragraph. I’ll try again.

The November numbers have not yet been released. Even when they do come out, officials do not break down the figure by demographics, so it will be impossible to tell how many more minority citizens applied.

But store owners said the pattern is clear. Michael Cargill, who owns Central Texas Gun Works in Austin, told NBC News that his shop’s gun classes are selling out, with Muslim, black, Hispanic and LGBTQ customers flocking to them.

@61 and 63> So a race war is coming? I wonder if Charles Manson will live to see it.

@62: Yes, but DYB, we don’t know how she voted. She could be like many of us are, in a district designed to keep a Repub in his House seat. She could be one “blue” person in a sea of “red” voters.

And looking here it appears the district went for Obama and Clinton previously:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado's_6th_congressional_district#Voting

Here’s a good summary article on the incriminating Trumpoline tapes. It appears that they literally have a cast of plenty.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

@63, well that is interesting.

Unfortunately, I fear it may lead to “…he had a gun! I had to shoot him first!”

Poor little Popular Vote Loser Trump. His grand affair ain’t gonna be so grand after all.

Early on, there was talk of something much flashier. Trump reportedly huddled with Mark Burnett, producer of his former hit show, “The Apprentice,” about parading down Fifth Avenue in Manhattan, where Trump Tower is located, then traveling by helicopter to Washington with the nation glued to TV screens. ­Others suggested other flourishes, such as a grand unfurling of ceremonial flags as Trump passes by his hotel on Pennsylvania ­Avenue NW during the parade.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/surprisingly-trump-inauguration-shapes-up-as-relatively-low-key-affair/2017/01/16/dad118e0-d9ac-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html?utm_term=.9b5e45efcd51

@66 Unfortunately, when intelligence guys refer to Trump as an unwitting agent or “polezni durak” – a useful fool, is why he’ll get off scot free. They either have to prove he knew or find something else as far as Russia. I wonder who recommended Manafort to him?

@69, Roger Stone and Manafort were business partners and longtime political dirty tricksters.

Also, Manafort and Jeff Weevil from BirdBrain’s campaign were tag-teamers over in one of the Russia satellite countries. Both paid very well.

Love this:

Hee hee Fredster!! Oh, Kellyanne is going to be comedy gold. I guess that’s one bright spot???

Prolix, you are so right. The Rethugs would have started many legal proceedings by now. The Dems.are still fumbling around trying to pick their jaws off the floor.

I forget what part of the Bible this was in, maybe Two Corinthians, where it said, “Blessed will be the rich with tax cuts paid for by the sacrifice of health care to the poor.”

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71 | NW Luna
January 17, 2017 at 1:04 am
Love this:
Great photos here: In 1913, suffragists crashed Woodrow Wilson’s inauguration to demand the vote

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Wonderful post NW!

And part of the reason, IMHO that women are still riding in the trunk in 2017 is their timid way of dealing with women’s rights.

In 1913 they protested on inauguration day, here, we not only do it after the horse has left the damn barn, but also claim it has nothing to do with a protest against trump.

If the protest isn’t against Der Douche, what the Hell is it for?? To support women just for the heck of it. To pretend it’s like the Million Man march, held years ago???

I want to see lots of Hillary signs and t-shirts at our march. I gotta get busy and make myself a great Hillary sign.

Here are the estimates from the Congressional Budget Office about the “new, beautiful, plan to replace the sad, failing Obamacare.”

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And I don’t know if there’s anything scarier than this:

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Here’s a doozy from the woman who gave the Heil salute at the RNC Convention.

Gloria Alred and a client are going to hold a press conference announcing a lawsuit against Drumpf for sexual assault. Eichenwald tweets that the irony in this is that if wasn’t for Rethuglicans’ pursuit of Clinton in the 1990s, the lawsuit wouldn’t have been able to proceed while he was in office.

@80> Weird, isn’t it?

Rick Santorum is now a CNN commentator. *eye roll*

Apparently so is David Fahrentold, though Fahrenthold is a “contributor.” What’s the difference?

79 | DYB
January 17, 2017 at 12:56 pm

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Is this the same woman that was raped by El Douche when she was 13?

Just in case you missed it, here is the intelligence dossier that was published on Buzzfeed:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

I am keeping it in my bookmarks.

A dossier making explosive — but unverified — allegations that the Russian government has been “cultivating, supporting and assisting” President-elect Donald Trump for years and gained compromising information about him has been circulating among elected officials, intelligence agents, and journalists for weeks.

I’ve seen three different right wing headlines that say the Clinton Global Initiative is being shut down. Of course they are spinning it as there is no more grift to grift. Wonder who, if anyone, will continue their work and what Hill and Bill will do next.

@86> I am not seeing this on Google news.

@84> Not sure which accuser this is.

@65, could be one of the few blue voters, though lots of deluded Trumpists have indeed been waking up to the sickening realization of what they voted for.

I have signed up for Google alerts on anything concerning Hillary since 2008. Most of the negative articles are linked to sites like Breitbart.

@86, GA: The last I heard, the CGI is the networking initiative started by Bill, and due to the kerfuffle with the Clinton Foundation, they were looking to transfer the functions to another charitable organization. People were complaining that the dissolution/transfer wasn’t moving fast enough but there were mission and staffing concerns. They didn’t want people to lose their jobs and they were looking for the right fit. Never heard anything after that but Yahoo had a similar spun headline today making it sound like the CGI was dying on its own which I doubt.

More than 50 Democratic lawmakers now skipping Trump’s inauguration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/01/16/more-than-30-democratic-lawmakers-now-skipping-trumps-inauguration/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_inaug-boycott-310pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I wish the total would grow to at least a majority.

This will be torture for Hillary.

The director of the CIA just went off on Donald Trump. It was a long time coming.

[snip]

Brennan didn’t hold back, saying Trump has a right to challenge the intelligence community — but not in this manner.

“It’s when there are allegations made about leaking or about dishonesty or a lack of integrity, that’s where I think the line is crossed,” Brennan said.

He added: “Tell the families of those 117 CIA officers who are forever memorialized on our wall of honor that their loved ones who gave their lives were akin to Nazis. Tell the CIA officers who are serving in harm’s way right now and their families who are worried about them that they are akin to Nazi Germany. I found that to be very repugnant, and I will forever stand up for the integrity and patriotism of my officers who have done much over the years to sacrifice for their fellow citizens.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/17/the-director-of-the-cia-just-went-off-on-donald-trump-it-was-a-long-time-coming/?tid=pm_politics_pop

I automatically assume that any negative press about the CGI or the CF is propaganda aka lies.

Hahahahaha,

We’re so excited to see 3 Doors Down at Donald Trump’s inauguration on Friday, but apparently not everyone is.

The president-elect is apparently having some problems getting people jazzed about Inauguration Day festivities.

Planners for the event are estimating that as many as 900,000 people will attend the Jan. 20 event, according to NBC Washington. An estimated 1.8 million people showed up for Barack Obama’s first inauguration.

Because Trump loves everything to be YUGE, he’s taken to Facebook in an attempt to rally his fellow Americans.

HuffN’Puff

@91 Of which there never should have been a kerfuffle, as they were falsely smeared. Even if they had not been planning to shut down if Hillary lost, I can see why they would now. Working globally requires diplomacy no matter who the SOS is. They can’t just waltz in and do what they want, no matter if it’s for charitable reasons. They still have to work with those governments through our own. I can see how the Trump administration would make it hard, if not impossible to have friendly relations. Who needs that? I do wish the CGI would make a statement and shut the false spin down.

@86: When I saw some articles on that at yahoo, I looked for the source of the articles and they were all linked to items on PJ media, Fox and the like. I love that on yahoo when you are looking for the source sometimes it is listed as “trending”. When you click on it you’ll see trending again and then the link goes to PJ media.

http://mediamatters.org/networks-and-outlets/pajamas-media

@94

I agree, there is no reason for the Clinton’s to dissolve CGI now that…(sniff, sniff)……….you know.

@94 and @96: Totally agree. The CGI and the CF are wonderful organizations, both innovative and effective.

@93: Wow, Brennan blasted him good. If there is a Russian connection, they will find it. I have no idea where we go from there when they do, but he should never have pissed off the intelligence agencies.

@95: The only way he is going to get 900,000 people is if he pays them, gets them drunk first and provides transportation services. Ha!

Okay, this woman did come forward before the election and they have asked for outtakes of The Apprentice.

A former contestant on President-elect Donald Trump’s TV show who claims he made unwanted sexual advances on her filed a defamation suit against him Tuesday for publicly denying her claims.

“The Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos appeared alongside her attorney Gloria Allred in Los Angeles to announce the suit. In a brief statement, Zervos said she demanded in mid-November that Trump retract his public statements that she and more than a dozen other female accusers were fabricating allegations that he groped or kissed them.

“Since Mr. Trump has not issued a retraction as I requested, he has therefore left me with no alternative other than to sue him to vindicate my reputation,” Zervos said.

Allred said the case was filed in a New York court Tuesday morning.

Trump lawyers did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but Trump issued a statement last October that appeared to deny her claims that he repeatedly kissed her on the mouth, grabbed her breast and thrust his genitals at her when she was a contestant on “The Apprentice” in 2006.

“I vaguely remember Ms. Zervos as one of the many contestants on The Apprentice over the years,” Trump had said in a statement on his campaign website. “To be clear, I never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. That is not who I am as a person, and it is not how I’ve conducted my life. In fact, Ms. Zervos continued to contact me for help, emailing my office on April 14th of this year asking that I visit her restaurant in California.”

Last year, Trump’s campaign released a statement from Zervos’ cousin saying she had spoken about Trump in glowing terms after her time on the TV show.

However, Allred has said three witnesses — including Zervos’ father — confirm she complained about Trump’s advances at the time. In addition, the longtime women’s rights attorney said Tuesday that her client had passed a lie detector test regarding her allegations. She also saluted her client’s courage in deciding to proceed with a suit against the incoming president of the United States.

“It takes a great deal of courage to sue the most powerful man on the planet,” Allred said during a 40-minute appearance before reporters at her Los Angeles law office. “Women are not a footnote to history….We value women who allege they have been the victims of injustice.”

Regardless of who’s telling the truth in the dispute, the court fight could result in Trump facing something he managed to elude during the presidential campaign: the publication of outtakes of Trump from his 14 seasons on” The Apprentice.” Those recordings remained under wraps during the presidential campaign but led to widespread speculation that they could contain insensitive or lewd remarks from Trump. One such recording in which Trump boasted of grabbing women by their genitals roiled the final weeks of the campaign, but came from the archives of “Access Hollywood.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/summer-zervos-trump-lawsuit-apprentice-233716

Obama just commuted Chelsea Manning’s sentence.

Manning will be released May 17th.

Rethuglican heads – the ones who now love Assange and WikiLeaks – are gonna explode. LOLOLOLOL

Fun fact: on Twitter Judith Miller (that Judith Miller) is livid that Manning’s sentence was commuted. She tweeted: “how many people died because of manning leak?”

People are responding: “How many people died because you lied about the Iraq War for Dick Chenney?”

Ain’t it great…@#%&$!!!!

Politician Arrested for Pinching Woman’s Genitals ‘Said He No Longer Had to Be Politically Correct’

Connecticut Republican politician Christopher von Keyserling was arrested and charged with sexual assault after he was caught on a security camera pinching the genitals of a woman with whom he got into a political disagreement.

Von Keyserling, the 71-year-old chair of the Representative Town Meeting in Greenwich, encountered the unnamed woman in the hallway of an unnamed town facility on Dec. 8, according to the Westport Weston. She told him it was “a new world” politically, to which he allegedly replied, “I love this new world, I no longer have to be politically correct,” according to the warrant.

She told him that if he was “proud of that I can’t help you,” after which he called her a lazy, bloodsucking union employee, the warrant said. He allegedly followed her into her office, saying he wanted to talk to her co-worker. Her co-worker came into the office, refused to talk with him, and left.

The first woman attempted to do the same, at which point von Keyserling “reached in from behind to place his hand between her legs and pinch her in the groin area,” according to the police arrest warrant. She threatened to hit him if he tried to pinch her again, and he replied, “It would be your word against mine and nobody will believe you,” according to the warrant.

Police say that the incident was caught on security camera and that the footage is consistent with the events the woman described.

http://time.com/4635835/christopher-von-keyserling-sexual-assault/?xid=homepage

How many people will die because of Trump’s stupidity…

@105, Lock him up!

@105> I saw that story a couple of days ago. He’s not even denying doing it. He just says it was a joke. Hahaha. LOL. Pig.

Putin says Russia has the best prostitutes.

@109: How quaint: Putin talking about people with “moral limitations”.

@110> Yes!!!! That was actually my favorite part of the video.

Hoo boy! I am still stuck on the fact that Rick “Sanctum” Santorum is a CNN commentator! The difference is that he just blabs, whereas Farenthold writes material for the organization.

I love that the women aren’t going away, and that the CIA Director ripped Drumpf a new one. BTW, CNN just reported that PEEOTUS says he doesn’t care about the Dem boycott because he “needs the seats.” Absolutely true. Those starving actors need jobs!

@111: DYB, I almost spat out my orange & cinnamon spice tea when I saw that!!!

@109, the way I saw that video was a KGB officer subliminally saying, “Comrade Donaldiski, I have the tape. Remember you said our prostitutes were the best in all the world. We appreciated your patronage. Don’t forget.”

When is the last time a Russian dictator tried to defend an American
pre-sident, saying HE was too moral to do such a thing with ladies of the evening?????? Anyone? Bueller?

Never, only for the puppet he is blackmailing. His old boytoy with itsybitsy hands

Putin at least lies without getting his eyebrows in a twist

Gasp! Shock!! Quell Suprise!! Donald Trump lied about meeting or not meeting Putin.

@104, LOL, glad to see Judith Miller get what she deserves. btw, I read someplace that the Manning case is very different from Snowdon’s–that her offense was much less than Snowdon’s. Also, of course, she was court-martialed and in prison, whereas Snowdon fled to our biggest enemy (I guess “frenemy” now that dump is going to be prez).

@105, Unf*&kingbelievable. I dealt with a lot sexual harassment all through my teens, twenties and even thirties, and I’m talking groping, being asked for sex, being asked to pose nude…on and on. I finally got fed up and gave one of them what he had coming, my fist in his face. Happily, the 2nd in command of that company was watching from behind a door, walked out, grabbed my super (the groper), hauled him into his office and reamed him for several minutes. It looks like the rethugs are going to be re-emboldened to pull this kind of crap in trumputin world.

@114 Prolix, that’s exactly what I thought about Putin talking about prostitutes! It was a veiled threat! Except mine was more like “Donnie, you my ho now, bay-bee.”

@119, GAgal, I like your interpretation better than mine. LOL

@104, I would say this about a man, so I will say it about Judith Miller. She is scum. She slept with sources about whom she was using as sources to write unscrupulous stories. She knew, knew without a doubt, that the Iraqi intelligence was manufactured. She should still be in prison — not for refusing to answer under oath, she should be in prison for treason.

Oops. Trump’s pick of Tom Price (from the lovely state of Georgia) to lead HHS may have hit another snag. What are the chances of seeing an ethics investigation here?

Donald Trump’s nominee to be the country’s next health care czar invested last year as much as $90,000 in six pharmaceutical companies shortly before leading a legislative and public relations effort that benefited those specific companies, records show.

As nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services in the incoming Trump Administration, Price would have wide latitude to oversee Medicare, Medicaid, the Centers for Disease Control, the National Institutes of Health, the Food and Drug Administration and numerous others, putting him in charge of regulating companies in which he has thousands of dollars in investments.

http://time.com/4636351/tom-price-drug-companies-investments/

It’s amazing how Repub leaders are referring to Obamacare as the Affordable Care Act now that they’re in charge. Even Tea Partiers are freaked out. They believed that non-existent replacement plan was gonna cure all our ills. (again, pun intended)

Remember the one time (of 60+) they actually had enough votes and it landed on Obama’s desk (for him to veto)? He should have done a major mindf*ck and addressed the American people:

“I have on my desk a bill to repeal the ACA. The CBO and many other analysts have determined if I allow this to happen, it will increase the deficit by XX million. In addition, XX million will lose their health insurance the first year, with an additional XX million losing insurance the next. I’d like to encourage the American people to contact your Representatives for any questions you may have. Better hurry… I’m on a deadline here.”

So ripping away health insurance, reproductive rights, ethics, wasn’t enough?

Ouch. Elizabeth Warren vs Betsy Devos. I especially love the part after bringing up Trump’s $25 million settlement for the Trump U fraud.

@125> Good for Warren. Tim Kaine also had a testy exchange with Devos. But what difference does any of it make? Rethuglicans are going to rubber-stamp the whole lot of them.

And this exchange with Al Franken.

@125 & 126, I’m not sure DeVos even understands what the Dept. of Education is or does. I watched all the clips. She flunked Warren, Kaine, and Franken (Franken asked a question that has been around for over 25 years). She’s not qualified or competent. She couldn’t even answer questions about the Individuals with Disabilities Act. She didn’t have her ethics paperwork done. She needs to be bounced.

@122

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@126 I don’t know. I think a few of these possible appointees will crash and burn. A lot of this oppo on them would never have been widely known to the public if they had not been picked. I would say that his picks tell a lot about Trump, but he has no clue. Bannon or someone else is in charge of that.

124 | NW Luna

Yup, the GOP wants to destroy everything good the Dems have done for decades. They now have the supermajority, so it’s their time to run the dozer over all our environmental, endangered species, education, safety net, women’s and LGBT rights, you name anything you are proud of, they will try to erase it from our history.

What they did to Hillary, they will continue to do to us

I can’t say where I work, but the whole gigantic place will shut down at noon and join in protesting Trump on Jan 20th. Hell yes!!!

@129> Prolix I just followed you on Twitter.

@132, thank you DYB, I will try to entertain.

@125

Warren did a bang up job making DeVos look like an unqualified candidate, which she is.

Now that I think about it, Devos had to be recommended by fellow religious nutjob, Mike Pence. Her goal is not just to profitize education for crony capitalism through charter schools, but to build a “Kingdom of God” with kids attending Christian schools. Years ago, my sister put her son in a private Christian school because he was being bullied in public school and the Board of Education wouldn’t help. That didn’t last long when his homework was like this:

“Ezekiel has 17 sheaves of wheat. If he sells 4 sheaves of wheat to Samuel, how many sheaves of wheat does Ezekiel have?”

I shyt you not. Sheaves of wheat. OTOH, it sounds a little Amish to me…

@125 & @127, really enjoyed those. Thanks!

@135, I thought bringing in the sheaves was making the woolly dogs come inside.

She keeps getting worse…

370 Cities Across The World Just Announced Trump Inauguration Protests

The upcoming inauguration of Donald Trump is being met with mass trepidation from not just Americans, but by millions of people around the world. That much is evident in the fact that there will be 370 sister marches on six continents that are expected to draw over 700,000 people across the world, protesting the inauguration of Donald Trump. 55 marches have been planned in cities from Paris to Nairobi to Sydney, reports the Huffington Post.

14,000 women are set to march in London alone in protest of not just Trump but of the recent wave of far-right hate that is engulfing human societies across the globe and in support of womens rights, LGBT rights,

This march was triggered by widespread apprehension at the threat to human rights anticipated in the wake of recent political events. By coming together on the 21st, a multitude of different organisations working across the board on different social issues send a message that the politics of fear and division will not be accepted. In 2016, we all saw an increase in hate speech and divisive rhetoric. Donald Trumps election was really a tipping point for me.

I can’t say where I work, but the whole gigantic place will shut down at noon and join in protesting Trump on Jan 20th. Hell yes!!!

Film at 11 ?

Has anyone else noticed how the media is suddenly into disclaimers? They’re now using the last five or ten seconds before a commercial break to say, “Just to be clear…” FFS, I watched a clip of Maxine Waters with Tamron Hall today and Maxine clearly stated what is known to us about what’s come out about Russia/Trump, and her view of what she knows that we’re not (yet) privy to. But at the end, Tamron (whom I love) did her little disclaimer. That was not ever done for Hillary. Never. Ever. We watched her being called a criminal, corrupt, unlikeable, blah, blah, blah, but NOT ONCE did I see push back at the very end of a segment from a “pundit”. Not once did any “liberal media” end a segment with “For the record” or even a weasly “we haven’t been able to confirm those accusations are true”. Nothing. Not once.

OMG. I knew this, but with all the crap going down, I forgot that Betsy Devos’ brother is Erik Prince of the Blackwater disgrace. Will the suddenly re-energized media bring him into the spotlight? They sure didn’t when it mattered.

@142, In July, Erik Prince told Trump’s senior advisor and white supremacist Steve Bannon, at the time head of Breitbart News, that the Trump administration should recreate a version of the Phoenix Program, the CIA assassination ring that operated during the Vietnam War, to fight ISIS.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/17/notorious-mercenary-erik-prince-is-advising-trump-from-the-shadows/

@140
Film at 11 ?
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Haha, I hope it’s big enough to get on the news.

“It never rains in California…”

Except this year, the rain won’t stop. This weekend is full of CA protests and it will be raining…rats!!!

We CA folks are wimps, it rains – we normally don’t stay outside. Maybe we will melt? 😉

@142 & 143

Yipes!!!

Haha, in an effin’ tweet:

State Department: John Kerry Will Not Attend Friday’s Inauguration

(no reason was given).

I wish Hillary and Bill would do the same.

This is downright creeeepy. Guess who wants to imitate Putin and N.Korea…

–Donald Trump plans on displaying the United States military’s strength when he becomes president by having troops march in parades.

“Being a great president has to do with a lot of things, but one of them is being a great cheerleader for the country,” Trump told the Washington Post in an interview published Wednesday morning. “And we’re going to show the people as we build up our military, we’re going to display our military.”

“That military may come marching down Pennsylvania Avenue. That military may be flying over New York City and Washington, D.C., for parades. I mean, we’re going to be showing our military,” he continued.

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