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The insufferable disgust of Donald Trump

Posted on: August 5, 2016

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It is what it is, am I right?

A good Friday to you Widdershins!

Donald J. Trump is, without a doubt, the type of individual who believes all publicity is good publicity.  But is that really the case when it comes to Presidential politics and primaries?  If Trump really believes that, his salesman background has overruled everything else in him and thanks but no thanks – I’m not buying.

Fareed Zakaria referred to Trump the other day as something a little bit coarser than a “salesman”.  This was not the normal take or thoughts I’ve heard previously from Zakaria.  He is not usually the type for an individual, personal attack.  However, this time things are different.  We are talking about the candidate of one of our major parties for President of the United States, i.e. the leader of the free world.  And this man acts as if he is pitching condos in one of his buildings.  I have news for Donald J.; Presidentin’ is serious business.

As Zakaria said in this WaPo piece:

Harry Frankfurt, an eminent moral philosopher and former professor at Princeton, wrote a brilliant essay in 1986 called “On Bullshit.” (Frankfurt himself wrote about Trump in this vein, as have Jeet Heer and Eldar Sarajlic.) In the essay, Frankfurt distinguishes crucially between lies and B.S.: “Telling a lie is an act with a sharp focus. It is designed to insert a particular falsehood at a specific point. . . . In order to invent a lie at all, [the teller of a lie] must think he knows what is true.”

Zakaria quotes Frankfurt further here:

…someone engaging in B.S., Frankfurt says, “is neither on the side of the true nor on the side Trump shrug-1of the false. His eye is not on the facts at all . . . except insofar as they may be pertinent to his interest in getting away with what he says.” Frankfurt writes that the B.S.-er’s “focus is panoramic rather than particular” and that he has “more spacious opportunities for improvisation, color, and imaginative play. This is less a matter of craft than of art. Hence the familiar notion of the ‘bullshit artist.’ ”

It’s an interesting piece and you should check it when you have time.

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Eugene Robinson, whom I have a great deal of respect for (and love to hear speak) has some advice and warnings to the Republicans:  “Run, do not walk, to the nearest exit.”

This week, Republicans, your calls for Trump to tone it down shifted into panic mode. Trump half pictureApparently you thought it was a bad idea for him to attack a Gold Star mother who lost her Army captain son in Iraq, then clumsily contrive to keep the story alive for nearly a week. You thought Trump’s pointed refusal to endorse Ryan and McCain in their primaries, even though both are supporting him, might not be the best way to foster party unity. You thought perhaps that while there are many things a candidate might say at a rally to win friends and influence people, “Get the baby out of here” is not one.

Robinson goes further in his essay and says:

Your response is to hope against hope that someone will persuade Trump to feign rectitude for the next three months…   You know full well how out of control and unbalanced he is; you just wish he’d do a better job of conning voters into thinking he can be trusted with the nuclear codes. Shame on you, Republicans, for encouraging such a dangerous ruse.

Again, a great piece you should check out when you have the chance.

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And look here at who decided to get all big and brave since #socklessdeadintern wasn’t around today.

Without the overbearing Scarborough there to dominate discourse, Brzezinski spoke more than usual, offering scathing opinions about Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

Really Mika?  All of that just because schmoe wasn’t around?  Does that mean you have been subservient to schmoe all this time?  Does it mean those soft, “comfy” interview that you both conducted with Trump did not reflect your true feelings at that time?  Puhleeze.

And finally, who knew that Mel Brooks was able to catalog Donald Trump in film, so many years ago?

This is an open thread to take wherever you wish to go with it.






33 Responses to "The insufferable disgust of Donald Trump"

One thing we know for sure: Trump will always be able to b.s. 😱


Glad your feeling better Fredster!!

I caught a little of Meeeka this morning. She was tough. If anyone even tried to excuse Trump, she shut them down. I don’t think it was a coincidence that it was Joe’s ‘day off’. He dropped a bombshell about Trump and nuclear weapons and he’s hiding. Either that, or he’s been in such a funk lately he went on a bender last night. Cheer up Joe! After Hillary is elected, I’m sure you’ll find plenty to criticize her for.

I did miss this part this morning (from the article) Elise Jordan

The intervention “won’t make Trump happy,” she said, and implied that it won’t change him.

“It’s like having sexual harassment training at Fox News,” Jordan said. “It’s pointless. It’s just for show, for covering your tracks.”

@3: The only thing that bothered me about it was how long has Mika felt like that? It certainly wasn’t apparent during the primaries. And since she did this on schmoe’s day off, does that mean she kowtows to him when he’s there?

@4 Fredster, I think Mika was loving her some Trump and hating her some Hillary for a long time. I’m sure she still hates Hillary, but finally, to her Trump has gone too far. I don’t know why it took her so long.

Eugene Robinson and Todd got me thinking. I wonder what scares the Republican leaders the most – that Trump may lose or that he might actually win.

Okay. The “loving wife” and the “longtime girlfriend” place different obituaries for this guy.

@7: The sad thing for the Republicans is, imho, they lose either way. Of course that’s a biased opinion.

GAgal said: I think Mika was loving her some Trump and hating her some Hillary for a long time.

Oh I totally agree. And they did not get off the Trump train until it was so totally obvious and they were getting called out on it.

@8: The visitation/wake is going to be interesting.

Michael Morell’s endorsement of Hillary. I love this and the media won’t be able to say a word if they wanted to.

I never saw her bring politics into the Situation Room. In fact, I saw the opposite. When some wanted to delay the Bin Laden raid by one day because the White House Correspondents Dinner might be disrupted, she said, “Screw the White House Correspondents Dinner.”

Fredster — instead of buying a TENS unit, see if your healthcare provider can refer you to a physical therapist who will work with you to try one out. They don’t work for everyone, but I’ve seen a lot of people find them helpful for musculoskeletal pain.

This is pretty cool.

Luna@13: Okay thanks. I had seen a commercial for the one from Aleve and there’s no prescription needed or anything else. I just thought that instead of having to take Flexeril when this happens, the TENS unit might be worthwhile. I’ll also check with the Blues to see if they will cover it (not holding my breath there)

Scottie is looosing it. After watching CNN have an unbalanced panel so many times, this is just ridiculous. Just today, after Hillary taking questions, you know the only person on there who wasn’t R? Bill Press. The banner across the screen said – Bill Press Bernie Sanders Supporter. Not a word out of his mouth was helpful to Hillary. It was harmful. Yet, they were all looking to him as if he was there to speak for her campaign. Hopefully, we won’t be seeing Scottie so much. (apologize if there’s a subscribe here box at first)

“never saw her bring politics into the Situation Room. In fact, I saw the opposite. When some wanted to delay the Bin Laden raid by one day because the White House Correspondents Dinner might be disrupted, she said, “Screw the White House Correspondents Dinner.”
And that’s why they hate her, she doesn’t acknowledge that they’re the masters of the universe.

@17 Exactly Sweet Sue. She is not, nor has she ever been, at their beck and call. And they hate her for it. Isn’t it strange that Trump and his lunatics get to condemn the media – in fact that’s what they love about him. Yet, the media gave him $2 billion in free advertising. Meanwhile, Hillary’s campaign is pouring in ad money, that ensure they get their big-time paychecks every week.

One thing about Bernie’s spiel about “millionaires and billionaires” concerning income inequality, allowed an important message to be lost when it comes to our media. Media, especially FOX – Billionaires paying Millionaires to tell the Middle Class to Blame the Poor. Funny, I never heard Bernie say that.

@15, I’ve seen them get covered. But that was last year and the commercial insurance co’s keep getting worse with wasting money and time denying medically necessary meds and therapies for several go-arounds, before sometimes covering it. I’ll have to look into the Aleve unit as I’m not familiar with it. A good PT can really help with how and wear to wear/attach a TENS unit, and various settings, but sounds like this one is a simple version. Best of luck!

@18: Thanks Luna. My very jaundiced opinion of med ins. companies is that yep, they’ll want me to go through several different options before finally saying “yes”.

GAgal, loved the Lenny Kravitz story.

@16: Oh good Gawd! I could not continue watching that. I started getting nauseous when she started mentioning Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third. The man who could not get confirmed as a federal judge. However, I did love this sendup of her.

So Trump has finally endorsed Ryan, McCain and Ayotte. Hope their numbers drop like a stone.

Thanks for posting that video, GAgal, it was great
Let’s keep our eye on the prize!

@25: That video was wonderful. And the crowd noise was almost too much for the speakers on my laptop!

R.I.P. Pete Fountain. Lord that man could play a licorice stick.

@28 LOL Half-Fast Walking Club. Too cute.

Shocker! Trump campaign lies in an ad about Hillary raising taxes.

@29: Back in the day with a younger Pete it was more like the barely-walking walking club after numerous stops for libations. 😆


GAgal, love the videos!

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