Monday Lessons: Learning about “the rulez” and manners
Posted May 16, 2016on:
Good Monday to you Widdershins!
As you can see, mb is not doing a post today. She had some issues to come up so I said I would look into the Magic 8 Ball to see what came up. And the 8 ball came up with “clueless, rude people should not be allowed to participate at state caucuses and conventions”.
As I’m sure you already know, Nevada held its state Democratic convention this weekend. From the reports (h/t to GAgal for the WaPo link) it appears a good time was not had by all or probably even any.
You’ve probably heard it seemed like it was a chaotic mess. People were rude and crude. There was shouting down of folks, in one instance a medic had to be called for an attendee, and a distinguished United States Senator was booed during her speech.
It appears that the party leaders wanted to make a change whereby previously temporary rules were to be voted on as permanent rules. And that’s when the stuff started hitting the fan.
That was when the vote to approve the rules as written — Roberta’s Rules versus Robert’s Rules, as some Sanders backers dubbed them — was conducted by voice vote. The motion, seconded by a Sanders supporter, passed — which is when the room, in Ralston’s phrasing, “erupts.” Ensuing speakers, including Sen. Barbara Boxer (a Clinton supporter), were interrupted by a vocal group of Sanders supporters at the front of the room.
The Bernsters were so upset with this first report that they wanted to file a “minority report” whatever the hell that means. You see, the Bernie folks were upset because some of their supporters were denied delegate status. Nevermind that some of Clinton’s supporters were denied that status too.
Several Sanders supporters, however, put together what they called a “minority report” of 64 Sanders supporters they believe were wrongly denied delegate status. According to state party representatives, six of those were eventually allowed as delegates, and the rest were denied delegate or alternate status because either they or their records could not be located or they were not registered Democrats by the May 1 deadline. [bolding/italics mine]
Ah, those damned pesky rules rear their heads once again. I have to wonder how these folks handled it in school when they got a test back with their incorrect answers marked as wrong, or when they asked for extra time to turn in that term paper which was listed on the syllabus at the beginning of term (“yes I know the date for this paper was on the syllabus you gave us three months ago, but I am so special those things don’t apply to me because…SPECIAL!”)
Sanders and Clinton supporters were divided over a vote to adopt a set of temporary convention rules as the permanent rules, with the former largely opposing them and the latter supporting them in a voice vote of the convention called by Lange.
Several dozen Sanders supporters flocked to the front of the convention room, shouting “this is fixed” and “no confidence” at party officials leading the convention after the vote. Others hurled insults specifically aimed at party leadership.
What the Las Vegas Sun writer said after it was all over was this: “What the vote revealed, though, was just how deep the divide between Clinton and Sanders supporters runs, and that Sanders supporters are far from ready to give up their fight for the White House.”
Prolix was gracious enough to collect a series of tweets from Las Vegas blogger Jon Ralston who was there and which were both amusing and sad the same time. What they show about the Sanders supporters is pretty obvious: the way they have behaved to this point is just exactly how they are going to behave at the national convention in Philadelphia. These tweets go forward as the event progressed.
Reid talked to his “friend” Bernie and they love each other other and want the Bernie people to behave tomorrow.
ICYMi: Bernie folks sued NV Dems because, well, because. NV Dems won. Harry talks to Bernie: https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731323309376167937
Barbara Boxer is here to speak for Hillary. “We need civility in the Democratic Party.” She has a future as a Vegas lounge comic.They had to take Boxer off big screen because Bernie supporter blocking camera with sign. I kid you not.
Bernie guy soliciting media to go talk to Bernie spox so we can understand why upset about rules. Um, is it because they are always upset?
Bernie folks essentially left to complain about: 1. Switch in measly 1 or 2delegates.2. Hillary/party mean to them. 3. Life isn’t fair.
NV delegate count not that important. Real story of NV DEMS convention is as harbinger of Philly: Bernie folks will be loud and raucous. 2/2
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