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Posted on: May 11, 2016


E.L.E. (pronounced Ellie) was an anthropomorphic character from the movie Deep Impact.  At first in the movie, E.L.E. was supposed to be the politically earth-shattering mistress of the Treasury Secretary, but in reality it only turned out to be a meteor the size of Texas bearing down on the Earth.  So E.L.E. was an Extinction Level Event.

In the movie the meteor was blown into two pieces.  One was a smaller survivable chunk and the other section remained extinction level in size.  According to Reuters/Ipsos polling, that is the way voters see this election.  The difference is whether it is Trump or Hillary as the extinction level event. According to the polling, a majority of voters for both are voting solely to stop the other from being President.

Let me make sure I effectively communicate this insanity: To stop Hillary from being President, voters will vote for a mango-hued man who proposes to build a 2,000 mile $100 Billion wall, ban Muslims, promises to tear up international trade deals, cut taxes adding $9.5 Trillion to the deficit, allow nuclear technology to spread, blow up the international monetary system, withdraw from NATO, round-up 12 million people and summarily deport them.

The backbone of this E.L.E. cheering section are white men angered by the loosening of their stranglehold on the reins of power.  They are angered about their tax dollars being spent for “Those People”.  Their anger about women, people of color, and those whom they consider morally suspect having seats at the table is menacing and apocalyptic to their world.  Bring on the E.L.E.!  How could it get worse than having to share power?

Reuters Poll

I know what you are thinking – old Prolix is dealing in hyperbole and metaphorical overkill.  Ya think?  Look at the real life existence in pre-E.L.E. red states:

Red states all have significantly lower life expectancy than blue states, owing to much higher incidences of diabetes, obesity, stroke and heart disease.

Red states have much higher rates of uninsured citizens, death, food stamp recipients and Medicaid recipients.

The 10 poorest states in the nation are all red states and 97 of the 100 poorest counties are in red states.

The median income is much lower in red states than in blue states.

Red states have a higher percentage of population abusing drugs.

Of the 12 states with the highest murder rates, 10 are red states.

Of the top 10 states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine are red states.

Of the top 15 states with the highest per capita execution rate, 13 are red states.

The incarceration rate is much higher in red states.

Property crimes rates are higher in red states than in blue states.

Divorce rates are significantly higher in red states.

Abstinence-only sex education is more prevalent in red states, which accounts for the fact that of the states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates, nine of the top ten are red states.

Deaths from firearms are higher in red states and red states export more firearms than blue states.

There are significantly more white supremacists hate groups in red states than in blue states.

The cynical, independent observer might characterize the citizens of red states as impoverished, poorly educated economic parasites with violent tendencies, poor health habits, drug and alcohol addiction issues, with criminal records, who shoot each other, cheat on their spouses, beat and impregnate their children before they get caught in the death chamber express.

So for those living in the topsy-turvy hell of a red state, allowing Donald Trump access to the nuclear launch codes isn’t really so much of an E.L.E. reach, especially when compared to electing Hillary Clinton, the most qualified individual to ever run for the office.

From where I’m sitting, if a democracy even contemplates such a hackney-eyed proposition, it may very well be a real Extinction Level Event.


I have a couple of hundred words left in my self-imposed 800 word limit.  Here are a few interesting articles:

Professor Krugman writes about false equivalencies and the white-washing, literally and figuratively, of Trump supporters in Truth and Trumpism.  He follows up with an article about the lack of hard thinking and Why I Haven’t Felt the Bern.

I always believe debunking myths, especially if they are widely held, is a good use of energy.  This economic article, The Economy is Rigged and Other Presidential Campaign Myths, is a good investment of time.

Trump now has 26 full-blown, four Pinocchio whoppers, which accounts for nearly 70 percent of Trump’s statements that have been fact checked.  You might say, “He’s YUGE when it comes to lying.”

The BernieBros should be checking the couch cushions for loose change because Sorry, Bernie fans. His health care plan is short $17,000,000,000,000.  

There’s a call to wake-up and smell the emails because even though Hillary Clinton is going to be exonerated on the email controversy. It won’t matter.

And I leave you with this explanation of the North Carolina gentlemen so concerned over privacy unless you have scary lady parts that just scream for transvaginal ultrasounds.  This stroke of .gif genius is from Ann Telnaes of The Washington Post.

NC Privacy


What’s on your mind?


49 Responses to "E.L.E…."

Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds and I’m very small minded today. Bernie whines about the unfairness of the primary system. He won the Nebraska caucus 57-43 and received the appropriate number of delegates. Trouble was, the caucus, as usual, was anorexic in terms of attendance.

Yesterday, Hillary won the primary by 58-42 with three times the number of voters as the caucus. Will Bernie ask for a reallocation of the delegates? I’m not holding my breath. Bernie’s concept of fairness is on a sliding scale.

As the Terminator said: “I’ll be back”.

Good quote from the first of your Krugman articles:

I’ve seen claims that Tea Partiers were motivated by Wall Street bailouts, or even that the movement was largely about fiscal responsibility, driven by voters upset about budget deficits.

In fact, there was never a hint that any of these things mattered; if you followed the actual progress of the movement, it was always about white voters angry at the thought that their taxes might be used to help Those People, whether via mortgage relief for distressed minority homeowners or health care for low-income families.

@3, It’s kinda scary, but I rarely find myself disagreeing with anything Krugman writes.

From the WaPo article on the email “scandal”:

As Bill and Hillary Clinton’s entire careers have proven, when you’re trying to take someone down, the next best thing to a real scandal is a phony one. Let’s not forget that when Bill was president, no alleged wrongdoing was too trivial to investigate, complete with dark insinuations about nefarious conspiracies and potential criminal behavior. You think the endless investigation of Benghazi is ridiculous? In the 1990s, congressional Republicans took 140 hours of sworn testimony on the urgent question of whether the Clintons had misused the White House Christmas card list. Seriously. That’s something that actually happened.

So of course, nope, they won’t let up on this.

@4: LOL! It’s because just about everything he writes makes so much sense.

From “The Daily 202” at WaPo and this ties in to something you said last night Prolix:

Three in 10 Democratic primary voters said they or a family member is employed in the coal industry, and these voters favored Sanders by more than 24 points over Clinton, WaPo pollster Scott Clement notes. Sanders’ lead was smaller, about 13 points, among voters in non-coal households, according to the preliminary numbers. Clinton faced criticism for saying “we’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”

So to draw a conclusion from that statement, do they think that Sanders is somehow supporting coal?

@5, I made a mental note about the 140 hours of testimony about the Christmas card list. That is a fun fact to use each time some conservodroid brings up the Clintons. And at the time, it seemed legitimate to them, just like emails or Benghazi now. It’s like a goldfish swimming around a fishbowl and suddenly remembering on each trip, “Hey, there’s a sunken pirate ship.”

@7 Fredster, I was wondering about that too. What exactly do they think Bernie is going to do for them? Why hasn’t the media asked him about it? I don’t remember seeing a headline ‘Bernie’s Gonna Save The Coal Industry’. But apparently these people did… in their minds.

@10: Yep, it just boggles the mind doesn’t it?

When Obama was elected, this all went into overdrive. The Tea Party was around here before the name Tea Party became a thing. This is what happened in the county next to me in early 2008.

After the disaster of 8 years of Bush, Republicans knew they were likely to lose the presidency. When Obama started winning primaries and caucuses, they freaked out. The sheriff, tax commissioner, probate court judge, clerk of court…you name it… were all Democrats who had held their offices for 20 – 30 years. Not because of cronyism, but because they were good at it and well liked.

The Republican party went to each of them and said if they didn’t change their party affiliation to R, they would primary them. So, rather than have to fundraise and debate and such, they just switched. So now the Rs get to brag about their Republican sweep every election.

They were so threatened by a black man winning office, they took it to the local level. So when the astroturfed movement came along, these people (not the elected officials) were ripe for the pickin’.

@7 & 10, it’s hard to explain, but the hatred (unjustified) toward Obama and by extension anyone associated with him, i.e. Hillary, is palpable in Appalachia. While part of it is undeniably fueled by bigotry and racism, the vast majority of it emanates from having someone upon which to focus on their unfocused hatred. People are just plain angry, angry isn’t the right word, just plain bombastically furious about technology and economics. Technology — fewer people needed to mine and economics — natural gas being cheaper than coal. In other words, these people are furious about the march of time and being unable to stop time back when they could make $100K without a high school diploma, drive a Dodge Ram Hemi, have an 84″ teevee, and ruin their health without any semblance of government intervention.

Voting against Hillary is the closest they can get to registering their rage about being unable to turn back time. It makes no sense, but in the mountains, few things do.

I heard (rather than watched) the coal miner guy who lost his job being interviewed by a woman pundit – maybe Joy Reid, don’t know – a couple of days ago. It went like this: (paraphrasing)

W: Well, Hillary Clinton’s plan is to invest billions of dollars in to areas like yours for job training and new industry to replace these jobs.
CM: Right now, I’m only eligible for $5000. for training.
W: Well, her plan…
CM: I can’t wait that long. I’ve got a family to support.

If he wants something done right now, he’s SOL if he thinks Hill, Bernie or Trump can help him. Someone needs to direct him to those congress people he voted in to office. But he might want to keep the future in mind.

I think it’s funny that Bernie won the Nebraska caucus by 14, then lost the primary by 16. If it were the other way around or if the delegates were allocated by the primary instead of the caucus, his camp would be screaming “Fraud! It’s all rigged! I’ve been disenfranchised and there are thousands more just like me!”

@15 GAgal — don’t you know it! What a hypocrite.

@13: In a way I can understand the anger some of the folks have about losing their jobs. I know that for many it was a generational thing with grandfathers, fathers and sons (and daughters?) all working in the mines. It was just a given and they made a relatively good living from it.

My father had three or four of his half-brothers who worked in the mines their entire working lives.

Prolix I’ve been meaning to ask: What’s the deal with the Kentucky Dem primary? Is it going to be a primary or caucus? Was it just the Republicans that had the caucus or whatever for Rand Paul? Also, I haven’t been able to find any polling on it.

@14 & 17, GAgal, Fredster, there’s a task force that has been working for two years now on the issue of transitioning these folks. Hal Rogers, the 5th District Repub. Representative, is the Chairman of the House Budget committee. There’s money flowing like the flash floods these strip mines cause. There are all kinds of initiatives available to them in terms of retraining right now. There are outreach programs available right now, but it is just this simple — nothing they can be retrained to do is going to pay them $100K a year. For many, that came with union protection until the miners were convinced by the owners to decertify the unions. Now their retirement benefits, their health insurance, their life insurance, everything is being sent to the wood chipper of bankruptcy courts. Yeah, they are angry, but they are angry at the wrong people.

And the real culprit in this is the storyline provided by Mitch McConnell and the mine owners — Obama’s War on Coal. It is a fact-free, mindless, piece of political propaganda that was the easy answer these people were looking for. It also makes politicians, like McConnell, unaccountable for raking in donations and then doing nothing.

For many, that came with union protection until the miners were convinced by the owners to decertify the unions.

That was the killer right there.

@18, the Democratic Primary hasn’t changed. It is still a go to the polls and vote primary. And we do it right — you have to be registered to vote in the primary. We are closed tight as a tick when it comes to voting.

Of course, new governor Bevin (Piyush’s fanboy) has taken to throwing duck fits outside the state Democratic Headquarters in protest. On primary day there will be randy ducks circling the headquarters hoping Bevin makes an appearance.

@20, unions being decertified were the killer. The Peabody, Patriot, Arch, fiasco is going to end up turning tens of thousands of retired coal miners and their families out on the streets.

@22: That’s what I meant, the unions being decertified.

@21: Yuk Fu Bevin.

I haven’t seen a thing on polling for the Ky. primary. Do you have any numbers or info?

There was really early polling almost a year ago, but nothing of late. I haven’t seen anything in terms of public polling. What I’m thinking is that Socialist Comrade Sanders isn’t so hot to trot in parts of KY. Hillary’s and Bill’s brand of democrat has always played well in KY. There will be the war on coal vote in eastern KY, but Hillary will do well in Louisville. Colleges will be out of session so that is positive. Beyond that there isn’t a built-in constituency for Comrade Sanders.

@25: Yeah, Nate Silver has nothing and haven’t found any public polls anywhere else. Don’t know if Hillary’s decision to buy some media and make the couple of visits that she did means she thinks she’s got a chance, whether she’s slipping or what.

Just reading this diary at dailykos about another letter from the FEC to Bernie’s campaign about his donation violations. Over 600 pages worth. I’m beginning to think someone in his campaign has finally crunched the numbers and realized when they pay back these donors, their camp is probably in the red. His state director in California just left the campaign and Bernie is saying they may not buy ads there. I think it’s because he can’t afford to.

If he had set his campaign up with a “victory fund” like Hillary’s, these donations could have gone there for the DNC and down ticket Dems. But instead he’s been ranting and raving about ‘money laundering’ and crap so he couldn’t. Just think, after all the name calling and accusations of Hillary, the DNC and the Democratic party – they will be the ones to pay off his debt.

The diary itself doesn’t give a lot of information, but there’s more in the comments. There are 1,000 comments though, so it was slow to load (for me anyway)

@27, GAgal, is that about the violations based on the thousands of small donations on the same day from the same zip code in Virginia?

Oh Gawd! Michael Moore is on Lawrence’s show. Bleh.

Oh wonderful! Now yahoo mail is acting all fubar. Grrrrrr! 👿

Prolix, no this more of the same. 4th letter. Jan, Feb, March and now April filings. He has not complied and straightened out these filings for the last four months.

@31, GAgal, what is it — they don’t teach math in Vermont, Jane can’t do the taxes and Bernie can’t straighten out his fraudulent campaign finance statements. Or maybe the calculators keys stick because of all that maple syrup.

Unbelievable. From crooks and liars. George Zimmerman auctioning off the gun he used on Trayvon Martin. What a sick – o!

Prospective bidders, I am honored and humbled to announce the sale of an American Firearm Icon. The firearm for sale is the firearm that was used to defend my life and end the brutal attack from Trayvon Martin on 2/26/2012. The gun is a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm. It has recently been returned to me by the Department of Justice. The pistol currently has the case number written on it in silver permanent marker. Many have expressed interest in owning and displaying the firearm including The Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. This is a piece of American History. It has been featured in several publications and in current University text books. Offers to purchase the Firearm have been received; however, the offers were to use the gun in a fashion I did not feel comfortable with. The firearm is fully functional as the attempts by the Department of Justice on behalf of B. Hussein Obama to render the firearm inoperable were thwarted by my phenomenal Defense Attorney. I recognize the purchaser’s ownership and right to do with the firearm as they wish. The purchaser is guaranteed validity and authenticity of the firearm. On this day, 5/11/2016 exactly one year after the shooting attempt to end my life by BLM sympathizer Matthew Apperson I am proud to announce that a portion of the proceeds will be used to: fight BLM violence against Law Enforcement officers, ensure the demise of Angela Correy’s persecution career and Hillary Clinton’s anti-firearm rhetoric. Now is your opportunity to own a piece of American History. Good Luck. Your friend, George M. Zimmerman ~Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum~

Here’s a fun fact to know and tell: Nate Silver just said on Trevor Noah’s show, “So far, the only real corollary to Trump supporters is the number of racist Google searches within an area.”

That sounds about right.

And Bernie was on today with Mrs. Alan Greenspan and was his usual crusty-old-bastard self.

I switched over to MSNBC just now, the repeat of Hayes’ show. I wonder if Hayes asked Bernie about his FEC problems?
Nah, probably not. That would interfere with the chubby he had under the desk while talking to Bernie.

@33, that might be another indication of Trump support — have you ever shot an unarmed black teenager?

Has anyone seen the “Trump versus Bernie” so called debate on the Fusion channel?
Hilarious, young impressionists skewering the two sides of one coin candidates with great jokes.
They’re brilliant.

@37: I don’t get that one. Do you think they might have it online?

Sweet Sue, I have seen that. It’s hilarious. The whole thing is 40 minutes but here’s part one.

Found a new site to love about critters.

hmm. Link looks funny but I’ll try it.

GAgal@39, thanks for putting up there. That was hysterical.

@39, yep, Laker & I watched it last night. Very funny! I’ll watch the dog one later when Laker gets home, he will love it.

@33, I hate Zimmerman, utterly despicable, loathsome person.

What do you guys think about the fbi director’s (comey?) remarks about emailgate?

@46 socalannie – That was a good read. Thanks.

@46 – Annie, liked your link, and found this one too, about how young voters overwhelmingly prefer Clinton to Trump. So much for her “millennial problem.”

@48, that’s great! So much for all the Bernie bro bluster.

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